Toy Hauler!

[Robobrainiac]

So for the last couple of years my wife and I have been saving up for a toy hauler. We recently just found out the grey wolf 26MBRR is not tall enough for our pioneer. So after doing some more searching I think we have settled on the Stryker 3313.

How much is too much weight?

Does anyone have any toy hauler recommendations?

I feel like I should invest in a dually if I go 5th wheel.

My truck is a 2003 ram 2500 cummins.

Thank you everyone for your time!

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[NTCPrezJB]

Off the top of my head @trigger @Backwoods or @Ridinfool might have some advice for ya on toy haulers and tow vehicles. @CumminsPusher will probably approve of your current motor choice

 

[Todd627]

@Remington also would have some insight on this topic too.

 

[JMynes]

I once had a pretty big 5th wheel and pulled it with a D’Max 2500 no problem.
Compare your truck‘s towing capacity to the GVWR of the 5er. If it can pull that much weight you are good to go. Don’t let the salesman bulls*** you into exceeding capacity. He just wants to make the sale, after you leave the lot you can’t claim he said it was okay. Well, you can, but it won’t hold up in court.
Your truck is pre-DEF, is it not? I would hang on to that.
How high is the garage door opening?

 

[Backwoods]

I pull a fuel 260. It’s around 8000lbs, 31 ft. I have a 2022 F250 that pulls it great. I will eventually trade for a 5th wheel with same truck but will keep the weight reasonable. It can haul any size sxs.

 

[Vikes79]

So for the last couple of years my wife and I have been saving up for a toy hauler. We recently just found out the grey wolf 26MBRR is not tall enough for our pioneer. So after doing some more searching I think we have settled on the Stryker 3313.

How much is too much weight?

Does anyone have any toy hauler recommendations?

I feel like I should invest in a dually if I go 5th wheel.

My truck is a 2003 ram 2500 cummins.

Thank you everyone for your time!

STG 3313 | Cruiser RVs

cruiserrv.com

You’ll be fine with your 2500.

You might want to consider loosing the garage part and go straight to open floor concept. You’ll like that you won’t have the sardine can feeling when you want / need to take cover from the elements.

My FILs FUEL bumper pull rv was this way and we hung out more in that vs the big Wolfpack 325pack13 I had, simply because theirs had more liveable space than mine did even though my rig was 15’ longer.

 

[Red500]

I once had a pretty big 5th wheel and pulled it with a D’Max 2500 no problem.
Compare your truck‘s towing capacity to the GVWR of the 5er. If it can pull that much weight you are good to go. Don’t let the salesman bulls*** you into exceeding capacity. He just wants to make the sale, after you leave the lot you can’t claim he said it was okay. Well, you can, but it won’t hold up in court.
Your truck is pre-DEF, is it not? I would hang on to that.
How high is the garage door opening?

I'll second the part about GVWR rating and not the imaginary dry weight that the salesman will tell you to go by.

 

[Jankyeye]

I have a work and play 25wab, I’m fairly happy with it but it’s a tight squeeze with a P1K

 

[Robobrainiac]

I once had a pretty big 5th wheel and pulled it with a D’Max 2500 no problem.
Compare your truck‘s towing capacity to the GVWR of the 5er. If it can pull that much weight you are good to go. Don’t let the salesman bulls*** you into exceeding capacity. He just wants to make the sale, after you leave the lot you can’t claim he said it was okay. Well, you can, but it won’t hold up in court.
Your truck is pre-DEF, is it not? I would hang on to that.
How high is the garage door opening?

I am pre DEF and love it. I have done a few mods to my truck and it pulls better than anything I have ever owned. I haven't found any concrete information on what the truck is capable of towing. I called my local dodge dealership and gave them my VIN and they were only able to give me max rear hitch towing. They said the truck did not have a factory option for gooseneck or 5th wheel so they don't have OE specs on that. You have to use the information provided by your aftermarket hitch choice. They can only provide max gvrw.

 

[Robobrainiac]

I pull a fuel 260. It’s around 8000lbs, 31 ft. I have a 2022 F250 that pulls it great. I will eventually trade for a 5th wheel with same truck but will keep the weight reasonable. It can haul any size sxs.

How well does your pioneer fit along the sink?

 

[Robobrainiac]

You’ll be fine with your 2500.

You might want to consider loosing the garage part and go straight to open floor concept. You’ll like that you won’t have the sardine can feeling when you want / need to take cover from the elements.

My FILs FUEL bumper pull rv was this way and we hung out more in that vs the big Wolfpack 325pack13 I had, simply because theirs had more liveable space than mine did even though my rig was 15’ longer.

Originally we were looking at the open floor plans but my wife likes the concept of the garage converting to its own bedroom with bathroom on the 3313. Bringing family on a camping trip allows them to have their own space to relax in.

 

[Robobrainiac]

I'll second the part about GVWR rating and not the imaginary dry weight that the salesman will tell you to go by.

From what I have read so far Google shows my truck should be around 13.8k GVRW and the Stryker 3313 GVRW is 12.8k

 

[Robobrainiac]

I have a work and play 25wab, I’m fairly happy with it but it’s a tight squeeze with a P1K

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That is really tight. I am not sure if my wheel offset would allow that squeeze.

 

[Backwoods]

How well does your pioneer fit along the sink?

It’s close. It would be better if the cabinets on the other wall didn’t go the length of it. I don’t have a pioneer anymore. I have an RMAX now but it fits good as well. It was was more than tall enough.

 

[JenElio]

How well does your pioneer fit along the sink?

He's got an R-MAX now, and he also wears Crocs so he's tooooo good for us P1K folks.

 

[Jankyeye]

That is really tight. I am not sure if my wheel offset would allow that squeeze.

I trimmed the counter top/ cabinets to slide the stove back in farther. It fits a little better now. Still would be super tight if I added spacers/bigger tires in the front.

 

[Backwoods]

He's got an R-MAX now, and he also wears Crocs so he's tooooo good for us P1K folks.

I am exceptoinal 🤣 🤣 🤣 🤣 🤣 🤣

 

[trigger]

Had my eye on 3 different brands at the end, Stryker, Hyperlite and went with the Momentum 21G. Mine's a baby compared to these guys rigs, 26' 11" at the tongue and about 6500lb dry weight. I'm hauling a P5 but I've seen pics of a P1 in it.

 

[JMynes]

I am pre DEF and love it. I have done a few mods to my truck and it pulls better than anything I have ever owned. I haven't found any concrete information on what the truck is capable of towing. I called my local dodge dealership and gave them my VIN and they were only able to give me max rear hitch towing. They said the truck did not have a factory option for gooseneck or 5th wheel so they don't have OE specs on that. You have to use the information provided by your aftermarket hitch choice. They can only provide max gvrw.

Tow capacities should be in your owners manual. The door sticker has some important numbers on it too, axle weight ratings and GCVWR (total weight of truck, cargo, and trailer). If you exceed any of those and are in a wreck the lawyers will be on you like rabid badgers.

 

[WagginTail]

We just bought a 30' work and play back in September. Dry weight is 9,064 lbs. GVWR is 13,168 lbs. I haven't weighed it but I'm figuring with the pioneer in it the weight is probably 12,000. I pull it with a 2018 F-550 which doesn't even know its back there. We went camping a few weeks ago without the pioneer in it. My 550 happened to be in the shop (got a tank full of bad fuel) and had to pull the camper with a 2016 F-250 crew cab 4x4 with the 6.7. Had to use the weight distribution hitch with it. It pulled it fine but I defintely feel better with my 550. The biggest difference between the two trucks is the handling and braking. Towing capacity for the 250 is 14,000 pounds. I guess I just feel a lot more comfortable having dual rear wheels. On the way back home from camping that weekend it was torrential downpour and defintely had to take it easy driving that 250. My wife sure didn't like being in that truck in that situation.
Unless your truck is 2wd single cab then it's probably closer to the 13,000 pound towing capacity that Google says. I honestly think that's a high number for a 2003. I'm sure most situations you would be fine. Defintely recommend a dually if you get a 5th wheel. I cringe everytime I see a 3/4 ton towing a huge 5th wheel camper.