P500 ugh I got work to do

[jak9922]

I so need new shocks this now is tops on my list stockers cant handle my riding now I need to reenforce frontend totally wrecked where front dif is also need to fix front pass cv boots both torn

 

[Hondasxs]

Looks better then mine!

 

[JACKAL]

@jak9922 I know I am blind, I cannot see where anything is buggered up in that picture.

 

[jak9922]

It smashed in crazy the crossmember there the front dif bolts on it wrecked and the cv boot is torn

 

[jak9922]

Ill take better picks when i have it apart to make a bomb (joe) proof crash plate

 

[JACKAL]

It smashed in crazy the crossmember there the front dif bolts on it wrecked and the cv boot is torn

So you actually bent the frame? or just the metal bash plate got whammy'd in? Hitting that hard that had to have hurt.

 

[jak9922]

not the main box frame rails but the cross member that the front of the front dif bolts to

 

[jak9922]

I constantly smash the front plate I always bottom out after a quick whoop or dip

 

[Lucas]

I've also had issues with the front bash plate getting stuffed into the front frame cross-member and bending it. The front differential bolts to the frame in the front with a separate bracket, but seems very vulnerable to damage from a bad hit as the bash plate seemingly does little to really protect this vital area from real damage. Need to beef this area up... perhaps a sacrificial bar behind the crash plate, but in front of the differential that will absorb the impact from a nasty hit that can be easily replaced instead of worse frame damage or *gasp* a smashed differential. Any ideas yet jak9922 to address this issue?

 

[ohanacreek]

Full skid should help distribute the impact force more evenly across the entire front.

 

[jak9922]

when I get a few hrs to play im going to take some think angle iron and weld it in place then some 1/8 inch plate steel to reinforce the bash plate

 

[Lucas]

Full skid should help distribute the impact force more evenly across the front.

Agreed, I think an impact-resistant slippery UHMW polyethylene bash plate or even an add on piece would not only help to absorb a lot of the energy from a rock hit, but would help the Pioneer to skip over a rock instead of grabbing the steel and plowing straight back into the frame member.

when I get a few hrs to play i'm going to take some think angle iron and weld it in place then some 1/8 inch plate steel to reinforce the bash plate

No doubt going "old school" and reinforcing the impact zone with more steel would make a big difference in the P5s ability to withstand normal "bashing". The front shocks are really soft and bottoming out at speed reduces the ground clearance significantly... that's my main issue with this machine anyway... does great otherwise. One other thing I noticed when I removed the front crash plate to inspect the damage was there are two tabs with through holes on the plate and corresponding nuts welded to the frame, but no screws in the holes... and it didn't look like it ever had them from Honda... did I loose them or were they left out intentionally. The parts fiche shows them so I'm curious about the deal with that. Do you guys have bottom screws in your front crash plates?

 

[jak9922]

The front shocks are really soft and bottoming out at speed reduces the ground clearance significantly

its beyond horrible

 

[jak9922]

my damage is from this hitting dips and whoops at any kind of speed the front bottoms and hits hard

 

[Lucas]

my damage is from this hitting dips and whoops at any kind of speed the front bottoms and hits hard

Yeah, if it wasn't for the soft shocks I wouldn't be stuffing the crash plate in the first place, at least not as often or as hard. Lots of logging going on where I ride and all the water bars with jutting rocks in the roads are a serious problem. But until the aftermarket offers a solution to the shock issue the unintended bashing of the front end will continue.

 

[scottn57]

Yeah, if it wasn't for the soft shocks I wouldn't be stuffing the crash plate in the first place, at least not as often or as hard. Lots of logging going on where I ride and all the water bars with jutting rocks in the roads are a serious problem. But until the aftermarket offers a solution to the shock issue the unintended bashing of the front end will continue.

Lucas- got any videos of this?

We ride in logging areas almost exclusively, and they have lots of water bars. Was almost ready to pull the trigger on a P500 and get rid of my RZR, but want to know it will handle the terrain we ride...

 

[jak9922]

Lucas- got any videos of this?

We ride in logging areas almost exclusively, and they have lots of water bars. Was almost ready to pull the trigger on a P500 and get rid of my RZR, but want to know it will handle the terrain we ride...

Aslong as ur not balls to the wall the way i ride 35+ consistently then yes you will run aground hard sometimes but if u just ride to ride and not push her then she will be perfect

 

[jak9922]

I might get burned at the cross for saying this here burn unless aftermarket picks up in next few mths i will prob buy a cat trail for my fast riding and keep the p5 for adventures camping hunting fishing family time

 

[jak9922]

The one and only down fall to the p5 i can think of besides the 42mph cutoff is the weak ass suspension

 

[ohanacreek]

I might get burned at the cross for saying this here burn unless aftermarket picks up in next few mths i will prob buy a cat trail for my fast riding and keep the p5 for adventures camping hunting fishing family time

Won't get burned at the stake, P500 wasn't designed for fast trail riding 35+