Talon X4 grinding on low and even popping out of gear

[Montecresto]

The updated parts in mine seem like a winner

Did you do it, or did Honda do it??

 

[Jaredk]

Honda did mine

 

[Jaredk]

Did Honda cover this?

Yes

 

[Montecresto]

Yes

Do you know if there has been an update bulletin or recall, or did you just take it in and ask for it and they said ok. Or must something be actually broken?

 

[SLOWPOKE693]

Do you know if there has been an update bulletin or recall, or did you just take it in and ask for it and they said ok. Or must something be actually broken?

If you are getting an IGR setup installed, why not order the updated parts from the dealer doing the work for you and have them throw the update parts in while your subtrans is out and apart for the IGR?

 

[Montecresto]

If you are getting an IGR setup installed, why not order the updated parts from the dealer doing the work for you and have them throw the update parts in while your subtrans is out and apart for the IGR?

Exactly what I want to do. I’m dropping it off in the morning and wanted to know before I ask whether it’s something Honda is obliged to cover or if it’s going to be at my expense….🤔

 

[SLOWPOKE693]

Exactly what I want to do. I’m dropping it off in the morning and wanted to know before I ask whether it’s something Honda is obliged to cover or if it’s going to be at my expense….🤔

I bet the dealer doing your work can answer that question better than some random guy from the internet..... 🤔

 

[Montecresto]

I don't know what to tell you, I'm an equipment operator by trade, I get paid pretty good money to run difficult machines. Not trying to boast, but just an example that I'm not some idiot.

I even installed a PaulF shift gate right after I got the machine back from honda.

I'm thinking there has to be some strange issue. Each time it ground it actually lit up the L, so something is off.

Apparently it’s more of a problem in some units than others, like overheating and various other problems that seem periodic……🤔

 

[Montecresto]

I know this thread is almost a year old but this problem is happening more and more. Those that say it's operator error are accusing a lot of experienced riders of not knowing how to shift and it's wrong. This is my third machine over almost 12 years and I love my Honda but the Sub-transmission has flaws and weak points.

I don’t know of too many blaming it on operator error. But if there’s not a bonafide recall, or at least service update seems to me there should be….

 

[Adam490]

If you are getting an IGR setup installed, why not order the updated parts from the dealer doing the work for you and have them throw the update parts in while your subtrans is out and apart for the IGR?

Subtrans doesn't come out for the IGR install.

 

[SLOWPOKE693]

Subtrans doesn't come out for the IGR install.

Didn't realize the IGR was done on the primary. My P4x4 brain was thinking you change the transfer case gearing to get a lower ratio.

 

[Adam490]

Didn't realize the IGR was done on the primary. My P4x4 brain was thinking you change the transfer case gearing to get a lower ratio.

That would definitely be the preferred way to do it.

 

[Montecresto]

Didn't realize the IGR was done on the primary. My P4x4 brain was thinking you change the transfer case gearing to get a lower ratio.

I wish someone was making an IGR for the subtrans that would lower low range and reverse only……

 

[Montecresto]

Didn't realize the IGR was done on the primary. My P4x4 brain was thinking you change the transfer case gearing to get a lower ratio.

We need more machine shops working on this around the country so that we can have more options, like that…🙄

 

[Montecresto]

Didn't realize the IGR was done on the primary. My P4x4 brain was thinking you change the transfer case gearing to get a lower ratio.

Would like to have had the Hi/Lo box that COPS allegedly is making but there’s supposedly not enough room between engine and tranny to fit in the Talon and I find Zach a very difficult person to deal with anyway…..

 

[Adam490]

Would like to have had the Hi/Lo box that COPS allegedly is making but there’s supposedly not enough room between engine and tranny to fit in the Talon and I find Zach a very difficult person to deal with anyway…..

Zach is a dumbass and all they have is vaporware. Read up on them in any of the TX based LS groups. They got run out of that scene so they moved on to SXS's....

 

[SLOWPOKE693]

Zach is a dumbass....

He has showed up here multiple times and proven this. Seems like that's all he's good at. 😁

 

[Montecresto]

Zach is a dumbass and all they have is vaporware. Read up on them in any of the TX based LS groups. They got run out of that scene so they moved on to SXS's....

Yeah, I had a very difficult conversation with him a month or so ago when I was trying to figure out what to do to get my Talon gearing lower as portals aren’t an option for me…

He seems to be an unpopular person most forums I raise the issue on.

 

[Montecresto]

He has showed up here multiple times and proven this. Seems like that's all he's good at. 😁

What’s his username here?

 

[SLOWPOKE693]

What’s his username here?

I would assume he has multiple usernames here because of being banned but I can't recall any of them off the top of my head. Pretty sure he posted (talked s***) in an IGR or engine tuning thread here under a username like COP4x4 or something like that and got banned same day...