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Talon X4 grinding on low and even popping out of gear

Russ989

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Well of course they didn't finish it today, and 9f course they aren't open Monday 🙄
Dude, I’d take a serious look into having them swap that thing with another. I know you don’t want to do all of the electrical again but a piece of mind is worth something. You should be on their doorstep jumping up and down already.
 
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Jefferson87

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Dude, I’d take a serious look into having them swap that thing with another. I know you don’t want to do all of the electrical again but a piece of mind is worth something. You should be on their doorstep jumping up and down already.
I'm trying to give them a fair shot at doing the repair. They took a ridiculous amount of time to fix the I4WD, but they only started the sub trans about a week ago.
 
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Russ989

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I'm trying to give them a fair shot at doing the repair. They took a ridiculous amount of time to fix the I4WD, but they only started the sub trans about a week ago.
As long as they are trying to do what’s right and fix it, I can understand being patient. Sucks that it’s had multiple problems. Might be a better machine than you thought when it’s all fixed and you get to try it out in perfect working order. Good luck
 

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Well about 3 months ago, It started doing this again. About 500 miles.

I was VERY careful to make sure I was stopped and the dash showed I was in L. It made the grinding noise while the L was lit up, did it 3 times and then started popping out of low.

I had installed a @PaulF shift gate almost immediately after the first repair.

Some times it would flat out not go into low, I would have to cycle the shifter from reverse to low and high to low. But still would not go in.

I was so frustrated that I parked it and it's been sitting since. I felt that if I took it to the dealer that I would have came unglued on them.

I'm planning on taking it in next week. I'm going to fight for a refund, I have no interest in one of these machines at this point.

I haven't been on any forums since then either. Has this turned out to be a prominent issue or am I the only lucky one?
 
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Russ989

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Well about 3 months ago, It started doing this again. About 500 miles.

I was VERY careful to make sure I was stopped and the dash showed I was in L. It made the grinding noise while the L was lit up, did it 3 times and then started popping out of low.

I had installed a @PaulF shift gate almost immediately after the first repair.

Some times it would flat out not go into low, I would have to cycle the shifter from reverse to low and high to low. But still would not go in.

I was so frustrated that I parked it and it's been sitting since. I felt that if I took it to the dealer that I would have came unglued on them.

I'm planning on taking it in next week. I'm going to fight for a refund, I have no interest in one of these machines at this point.

I haven't been on any forums since then either. Has this turned out to be a prominent issue or am I the only lucky one?
This Talon must have been manufactured on a Tuesday after a three day weekend. 🤔
 

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We've been adjusting all the new machines that leave to have more freeplay towards reverse then towards high. I havent had any complaints of any unit we've sold after we implemented this procedure. I do have a couple in right now for sub trans issues. One we sold a long time ago and one that has reverse problems that we didn't sell.
 

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The damaged sub trans low gear set should look like this when it jumps out of gear. When the gear dogs get rounded out it won't stay in gear. This damaged low gear set is from my Pioneer 1000. I got pissed trying to pull 8,000 pounds stuck in the snow. I tried to jerk it a few times and it went BANG as it jumped out of low gear. We dug it out and I towed it out in high range. I replaced both high and low range gear sets and both shift forks even though High range and the shift forks looked ok. We have 12 Talons in our riding group and no one has had any problems. Everyone has had the shift bang but they all know how to avoid that now. If it doesn't want to shift into low especially when cold we roll it forward in drive a few inches then the gear dogs line up ok to go into low. I have 15,000 miles on my 2019 Talon and nothing broke, got 1,400 on my 2020 Talon. It really sucks when you are having problems like this. Your dealer needs to replace the low gear set and the shift fork. I hope you get your money back.

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Jefferson87

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Just dropped it off, he started to insinuate that I wasnt shifting at a complete stop. 🙄

Said they have had zero sub trans issues since mine.

How many others are out there?
 

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With a properly adjusted cable and zero bangs on the sub trans there is almost zero issues. Most that have had an issue have had a user error/lack of adjustment at some point in the equation. I am not saying that you have just giving you the majority of it! I really do hope they get you fixed up. These Talons really are a lot of fun and can take a lot of hard riding!!
 

Jefferson87

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I don't know what to tell you, I'm an equipment operator by trade, I get paid pretty good money to run difficult machines. Not trying to boast, but just an example that I'm not some idiot.

I even installed a PaulF shift gate right after I got the machine back from honda.

I'm thinking there has to be some strange issue. Each time it ground it actually lit up the L, so something is off.
 

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That stinks! It sounds like there is something else going on. Hopefully they get you taken care of! Like I said these are tough, fun machines overall!

I can't remember completely but didn't you say at one point that your machine was brand new but had miles on it when you picked it up? If that was the case wonder if there's something that happened in that time frame that somebody did.....
 
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