@ripHST the gaps around the doors aren't so bad, there are bigger gaps are around the hard roof, some of them are almost big enough to put your hand through and underneath the seat back has a pretty good gap. I bought some air conditioner insulation at home depot and cut it to size to fill some of the holes. Blocking the wind is about all the soft doors do, but it make a huge difference as compared to nothing. I used to plow with an ATV, with so many layers of clothes I could barely move, doing it with the pioneer is a sweatshirt ( I said it again @Smitty335 )with the tunes on and being able to feel my fingers is well worth the money for the doors. From what I here, the hard doors themselves close up pretty tight, but you still would have the gaps from the roof, shifters, behind the seat ect to close up, like you said I couldn't justify buying them either.