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P500 500 versus 700 if price same?

Discussion in 'General Pioneer 500 Discussion' started by HondaHomer, Jul 12, 2019.

  1. HondaHomer

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    If I could get a 2018 700 deluxe for slightly more than. 2019 500, would it be worth it? Pros and cons to the 700 versus 500 other than bigger engine?
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    if 50" trail limit is not an issue for you and you have more than 1 passenger then go with the larger machine, if you want more speed then go with the larger, that is the only con of the P5.
     
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    If no trail restrictions, absolutely.
     
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    I have owned both. If you have more 50 inch trails in your area or want maneuverability in tight areas 500 all the way. If not 700 rides a lot better with more ground clearance with a nice bed. I have 700 deluxe now. I am more then pleased with it. Power steering , diff lock makes it nice . Also clears 27s no problem. Also very stabil due to extra width. They are both excellent machines.
     
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    How does that 700 ride on ruff trails compared to the 500? I’ve been kicking around a 700-2 not a deluxe for a better trail ride, I’ll keep the 500 just been thinking of selling my old rancher and getting the 700
     
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    Much better than my 500. They key in my opinion is don t go to fast for conditions . I have 27 inch tires on 12 inch rims which also helps a decent amount. It's good enough I am not going to spend 1400 dollars on shocks at this point. I traded my 500 because I would have to spend a chunk to get the ground clearance , the improved ride , power steering , diff lock . They bed is much easier also to secure stuff . Don't get me wrong I liked my 500 and sometimes wish I had it. But I also have no regrets and feel the 700 is much better in all conditions . I could buy what ever I wanted but I am past the point where I have to have the biggest and baddest and really like my mid-sized machine , it may have to work a little harder but it will do it.
     
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    From what I read, people with 500's are passionate because it fills a specific need and for good reason.
    Whether it is hauling it in the pickup truck or maneuvering in tight spots, it is a great, compact machine.

    Places you want to go and how you plan to haul it , dictate the width limits of the machine.
    If none of that matters then the 700 gives you more flexibility now and in the future.
    Good luck and doubt there is a bad choice.
     
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    I had a bad experience with my 07 Rincon 680 motor. 3 cam shafts in 10,000 miles. Almost 9,000 miles on my p500 no problems.
     
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    Another cam on FB this morning.
     
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    Thanks for the feedback, I agree spending $1200 for shocks to me isn’t worth the price.. $200 maybe
    I was looking at a 700 and a Polaris Ranger today, they have a 2018 700-2 for $8999 plus tax and tags and I’m really thinking it over, I’ll keep the 500 the kids can drive it when they come home and I have the 500 set up to plow, with the doors it keeps me warm and out of the wind and I don’t want to buy all that again for a 700
    I’ll just get the Bimini top and 1/2 windshield and I’m set
     
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    My main reason for the 500 was it fit in a garden shed I have and nothing else fit, I put up a 24x36 garage this spring and now have a place to store something bigger
    I do like the 500 and it stays as it’s my plow vehicle and the kids can ride it when they come up for a visit, here in my tiny north woods town we can ride any road all year long, except during the spring melt so trailering is of no concern and were not restricted to 50” on trails...
     
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    Post some pictures of what you purchase no matter what brand and give us your feedback after you drive it.
     
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    The 500 is a completely different machine than the 700. If you like the ride & size of the 700 then you’re gonna wish you’d paid for the power of the 1000. IMO


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    Personal preference really. 700 will be more useful for work. 500 is more toyish. My thought is get a 500, or - go big or go home. I feel like the 700 is an all compromise machine. I'm keeping one of my 500s for my wife and upgrading the one I drive to a Talon next year, skipping completely over the 700 and P1000. But my use is strictly recreational. The tractor gets used for work tasks.
     
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    For what I am going to use my 500 for, I would still by the 500 over the 700.
     
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    if you want one machine that will work easy and get into tight spots, and having the power for 27inch mud tires and locker is important, the 700 is the best there, really not that big and turns tight. like they said all depends what you want to do, and how big you are, I couldn't fit in the 500 when I tried let alone take my wife or daughter and have room for trail stuff like drinks and straps, the 700 has plenty of room for people and all that storage, and cupholders on the dash
     
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    sorry but this don't sound that bad to me, 3-4k on a bike motor that sees many thousand rpm between having to mess with it don't seem that bad. might be something with the heat breaking down the oil, who really knows, don't seem like they have found much in common in the threads I looked at, certainly not enough to stop me from buying it. with the common trans you probably just have more wear there in the tc from shearing seems like it was hot parts of the country and they have the trans wear. I am just going to do my $20gl Valvoline atv twice a year and see what happens.
     
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    It may not be bad in some places, but that's 2.5...maybe 3 years of riding for me ( and many, out west). If Honda told me all I could expect was that type of mileage, I'd go buy a Yamaha. And @Farmer and some others had low milage failures.

    I put nearly 9000 on mine without issue, so it wouldn't keep me from buying one, but Honda at least needs to address the issue and stop blaming the owners.
     
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    blaming the owners is a different story, it seems more likely given the infrequency and lack of common use, that its more likely the cams were heat treated right or something, so I would agree they say its something the owner did to try and pass that cost, every business is going to try to do that. look at Polaris they pass on the customers a bunch of thing that are down right unsafe like fires and wheels and suspension coming off at speed, still people buy them.

    pretty happy with my purchase, think Honda and Yamaha are safe bets on reliability and longevity
     
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    My first pioneer was the 700-2, I then bought the p1000-5. My wife wanted the extra seats. Now that I’ve had both I miss the 700 I had a rincon love that tranny. P1000 just puts off too much heat. Last week I bought a 2019 p500 with roof, windshield, and doors with 250 miles. I like it and it don’t put off all the heat, I just have to get used to all that clunking when it shifts. I’d like to see someone on here put a rincon motor in the p500, I think that would be a good combo.
     
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