Clutch Pack

[Montecresto]

So my Talon X4LV is in the shop getting Torq Lockers installed as well as an IGR. The tech messaged me yesterday that the number one clutch pack has discoloration from overheating and that he is going to replace it. I’m assuming this is coming from my slow crawling the steep and rocky trails of the Rockies at elevation. Hopefully the IGR will be relief for the clutches….🤔

 

[SLOWPOKE693]

I would think the IGR would be a big help clutch wise while crawling unless you plan on offsetting the reduction back to stock with larger tires than you run now.

 

[Montecresto]

I would think the IGR would be a big help clutch wise while crawling unless you plan on offsetting the reduction back to stock with larger tires than you run now.

Oh no, I’m perfectly satisfied with my current tire size….👍

 

[HondaTech]

Can you get a picture of the clutch?

 

[Montecresto]

Can you get a picture of the clutch?

 

[PaulF]

Sorry to tell you but the type IGR you are installing is before the clutches so it will actually increase the stress on the clutches, not reduce it. This is the reason I elected not to use this type of gear reduction.

 

[Montecresto]

Sorry to tell you but the type IGR you are installing is before the clutches so it will actually increase the stress on the clutches, not reduce it. This is the reason I elected not to use this type of gear reduction.

Well that sucks……
What IGR are you using?

 

[PaulF]

Well that sucks……
What IGR are you using?

I'm not. I am waiting for something inside the Sub-Trans to become readily available without all the associated "drama" (if you know what I mean).

 

[Montecresto]

I'm not. I am waiting for something inside the Sub-Trans to become readily available without all the associated "drama" (if you know what I mean).

Haha, absolutely wish that would happen….🙄

In the mean time I guess I’ll get clutches replaced under extended warranty along with free oil changes….😂

 

[PaulF]

Haha, absolutely wish that would happen….🙄

In the mean time I guess I’ll get clutches replaced under extended warranty along with free oil changes….😂

If I were your dealer, I would no longer warranty your clutches because you have the IGR installed. Good thing I am not your dealer

 

[Montecresto]

If I were your dealer, I would no longer warranty your clutches because you have the IGR installed. Good thing I am not your dealer

😂 True, and good thing I’ve got a good tech….😎

 

[HondaTech]

If I were your dealer, I would no longer warranty your clutches because you have the IGR installed. Good thing I am not your dealer

Honestly Honda isnt covering this set of clutches, if they get paid for his dealer is either eating them or paying for it some other way.

Besides the point that those clutches are actually decent. The fibers arent even darkened yet and the plates are pretty normal looking to me anyway.

 

[Montecresto]

Honestly Honda isnt covering this set of clutches, if they get paid for his dealer is either eating them or paying for it some other way.

Besides the point that those clutches are actually decent. The fibers arent even darkened yet and the plates are pretty normal looking to me anyway.

Ok, I appreciate that. Apparently my tech feels they should be, and he’s aware of my extended warranty. Me, I just want a good fun and properly functioning Talon to do what I most enjoy, and I’ll let you guys sort out the rest…. 😊👍

 

[john790]

I have seen a lot of clutch packs.If they are going to replace go for it.But what ever you are doing keep it up your clutch likes you

 

[Montecresto]

I have seen a lot of clutch packs.If they are going to replace go for it.But what ever you are doing keep it up your clutch likes you

No operator error here….😎👍

 

[SLOWPOKE693]

Besides the point that those clutches are actually decent. The fibers arent even darkened yet and the plates are pretty normal looking to me anyway.

I would have no problem re-using that pack, looks good to me as well. Doesn't the clutch pack come as one complete assembly, basket and all? I haven't seen aftermarket steels and frictions yet but I know some guys are getting custom relined stuff now.

@Montecresto Tell the dealer you want the old parts back if he's changing that clutch pack. I'd throw you a few bucks for it to have as a spare.

 

[HondaTech]

I would have no problem re-using that pack, looks good to me as well. Doesn't the clutch pack come as one complete assembly, basket and all? I haven't seen aftermarket steels and frictions yet but I know some guys are getting custom relined stuff now.

@Montecresto Tell the dealer you want the old parts back if he's changing that clutch pack. I'd throw you a few bucks for it to have as a spare.

We're fixing to start season 3 on the original clutches in the race car.

 

[SLOWPOKE693]

We're fixing to start season 3 on the original clutches in the race car.

That's impressive! Do you guys inspect them at all during the race season?

 

[HondaTech]

That's impressive! Do you guys inspect them at all during the race season?

We had the entire engine apart after the 12 hour race last year because the pistons cracked.

Then we replaced the block due to cracking the right side near the engine mount.

Just had it apart mid way thru the season to bore the cylinders for clearance with new pistons.

Everytime they looked fine, never dissembled the engine just to check the clutch. But it never seems to faulter. We do a clutch relearn between races after a fluid change. Seems to be holding up.

 

[SLOWPOKE693]

It's sucks you guys had that string of bad luck with the engine but at least you got to inspect the internals along the way to see how it was all holding up.