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2018 Pioneer 1000-5. Plan on a warn 4500lb winch and a full width light bar. Do I need a second battery setup? Both should only be used when its running except occasionally maybe the light bar would be used a few minutes without it running.
I would, that way your running battery isn't effected by any accessories.2018 Pioneer 1000-5. Plan on a warn 4500lb winch and a full width light bar. Do I need a second battery setup? Both should only be used when its running except occasionally maybe the light bar would be used a few minutes without it running.
The club store should have everything you need except the batteries. And @Hondasxs can help you with knowledge. He is full of it! Knowledge that is. 🤣What's the go to kit for dual battery? I'm guessing you wire all accessories to the second battery and the stator will keep both batteries charged?
Gloom & Doom, you make it sound soo bad! HA! I second the second!Please correct if wrong....Worst case, if the primary (only) battery you have gets run down to a low enough voltage, then the Dual Clutch Transmission clutches may slip and permanently ruin the clutches and possibly result in needing a new transmission and/or well over $3,000 in repairs.
To keep the MSRP price down.I wonder why Honda sells the Trail and Forest model as well as offer a winch as an accessory but only has a single battery.
No doubt. These machines aren't getting any cheaper that is for sure.To keep the MSRP price down.
Keeping the engine running is a good idea, especially if you don't have the recommended Aux battery for winching. (Or wenching.)I frequently pull pivots out with the winch on my '22 p1k3. I also run a basic radio. I don't have a dual battery and haven't had any problems yet. No shifting issues, no problems starting, but I do keep the machine running while using the winch.
There Ya Go ! All Ya Need to Know !Keeping the engine running is a good idea, especially if you don't have the recommended Aux battery for winching. (Or wenching.)
Consider, the 4,500 winch can draw over 200 amps at full load - winding in a slack line takes 30! The alternator, with the engine running at 5,000 rpm, can make about 50 amps, the engine, with all it's smart stuff, will take some of that, leaving some to help the battery . . . but in NO WAY can it keep up. If the engine is at idle, the alternator is putting out much-much less. And you may be in a situation where you need to winch but cannot run the engine.
Bottom line, if you are going to go interesting places with your P1000, it's very advisable to have an Aux battery and a winch. The Aux will help preserve your main battery to get you home AFTER you get your machine out of whatever predicament you were bright enough to get yourself into! It's like insurance. Or as Dirty Harry said, "Do you feel lucky, Punk? Well do you?"
I agree with all of this. If you are going way off road it would probably be a necessity. If, like my situation, you will always be in situations you can be rescued, it does work without the dual battery. After a year of hard use and 4,000 + miles the battery is the weakest mechanical component of the machine (cab sucks). This thing is shaping up to be bullet proof. Performance is awesome. Transmission is a dream come true. If/when oem battery fails I will be taking a hard look at a single large battery.Keeping the engine running is a good idea, especially if you don't have the recommended Aux battery for winching. (Or wenching.)
Consider, the 4,500 winch can draw over 200 amps at full load - winding in a slack line takes 30! The alternator, with the engine running at 5,000 rpm, can make about 50 amps, the engine, with all it's smart stuff, will take some of that, leaving some to help the battery . . . but in NO WAY can it keep up. If the engine is at idle, the alternator is putting out much-much less. And you may be in a situation where you need to winch but cannot run the engine.
Bottom line, if you are going to go interesting places with your P1000, it's very advisable to have an Aux battery and a winch. The Aux will help preserve your main battery to get you home AFTER you get your machine out of whatever predicament you were bright enough to get yourself into! It's like insurance. Or as Dirty Harry said, "Do you feel lucky, Punk? Well do you?"
A second battery is like an umbrella, a firearm, or insurance: It is better to have it and not need it than need it and not have it.I agree with all of this. If you are going way off road it would probably be a necessity. If, like my situation, you will always be in situations you can be rescued, it does work without the dual battery. After a year of hard use and 4,000 + miles the battery is the weakest mechanical component of the machine (cab sucks). This thing is shaping up to be bullet proof. Performance is awesome. Transmission is a dream come true. If/when oem battery fails I will be taking a hard look at a single large battery.
A single large battery does have advantages over the smaller OEM battery, but I personally wouldn't run ONLY a single large battery.If/when oem battery fails I will be taking a hard look at a single large battery.