Bradley-Thornton
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Going to start with a question (anyone know at what temp the gauge goes from 2 bars to 3 bars and to 4 bars?
Info on bike
2016 1000-5 has IGR and 32x10 STI X Comps
My full Build
hondasxs.com
Have fan under set see post 68 and 73 (Just a ton of information on this page)
hondasxs.com
Now lets get started
I'm working in Texas in 100+ deg temps and the sand is super thick like 1 1/2+ft deep. I'm running the bike 25-35mph in like 5th gear 4k-6,5krpms 4x4 in high. I want to be very clear with the 32s and the sand I'm pushing the bike very hard like its under say 90-95% of its max load ability. I drop it a gear to say 8krpms and mash the gas to the floor no real change in speed or If I mash the gas to the floor in the gear I'm in it will keep picking up speed but it takes a min. This is a 3-7 mile ride in these conditions. If I hit solid ground like a main gravel road for that few seconds the bike will literally take off because its not under such a load.
In the morning when Its 75deg outside it want run hot just in the afternoon when its 100+ outside and the sand is 130+ it will jump from 2 bars to 3bars.
Test 1
After the first time it ran hot I added VP racing Cool Down you can buy at Tractor Supply. You could see it took a little longer to get to the 3rd Bar but not much difference but it defiantly went down to 2 bars faster. (I couldn't see any real temp numbers but I would say it ran cooler and defiantly helped it cool down faster)
Test 2 (I would like to add this is a nice piece for $20 and an easy install)
I added the Hondasxs (Pioneer 1000 Fan T-Harness DIY Fan Override! On/Off/Auto) I did the On and Auto I didn't care about being able to cut it off.
So For this test I cut it on before I started the hard ride. It made it take longer to go to 3 bars but it still did. Thats what I would think also. Sure it didn't change the actual temp just helped due to the fan was already on so the radator would have ran a little cooler when it was sitting still before I took off to start the run.
Test 3 All test are run with the radiator fan and under seat fans running
Outside Temp 75deg
Before the ride- under seat 105deg (You can see in the pic below the placement of my temp sensor under the seat)
After the ride- under seat 127deg
Test 4 Test ran just sitting no driving
Outside temp 82deg
Under seat- No fan- 148deg
Under seat - Fan on- 135deg
Test 5
I also took a temp gun to see what the hottest place on the cab was it is right out from the gas petal about where your calf muscle is. We will call this the side of seat hot spot for test reasons.
Outside temp 82deg
Side of seat hot spot- Fan on 109deg
Side of seat hot spot- driving around no load- 112deg
Driving around no load- Fan on- under seat temp 137deg
At this point I checked Radiator temp 178deg (with temp gun)
Test 6 (max load test) At this test we tested the sand and it was 131deg
Outside temp 99deg
Radiator temp 178deg- before
Radiator temp 203deg- after
Under seat- before 140deg
Under seat- after 167deg
Side of seat hot spot- 115deg before
Side of seat hot spot- 143deg after
Few thing I want to point out from the test under the seat changed the same amount as the radiator. Between test 5 and 6 outside temp changed a ton but under the seat stayed about the same. To me that says it is heat soaked based off engine and radiator temp. Also looks like in the spot I have the fan it is good for 10deg no matter the temp out side due to the heat soak.
If you look in the pic you will see my fan is pointed to push the air around the exhaust out but from my test the hottest place was on the other side like 10+deg hotter over by where you sit. Why? to me from the pics below it looks like they designed the bike to flow air out by the exhaust just like the way Im using my fan to help but The radiator lines are coming up on the other side by my butt and if you look back behind that to looks like the Transmission and not much room for air to flow by so maybe the air is bottle necking and getting stuck and heat soaking. No top of that you have the water hoses that are heat soaking and the motor and transmission. Just my thoughts.
So my next test will be to see if I can move my fan and try and help that air get out from the drivers side not worry about the exhaust side so much.
I don't feel that I have a real problem at this point but it gives me something to do by seeing if I can fix this problem. Seem like I have a great chance to see if I can help find the best placement for the fan under the seat. It will be 109deg tomorrow so great test day.
I stole the first 2 pics off the link above.
Info on bike
2016 1000-5 has IGR and 32x10 STI X Comps
My full Build
P1000 - Mud Riding Build 32in tires 34in tires
Clearance before 17 3/4 after 18in so after settle I would say no extra clearance but you could by tuning the spring tension up. Added the 814s shocks took them to the takeover for my first ride on them. (They worked way better then stock but I'm still adjusting them so will give a full...
hondasxs.com
Have fan under set see post 68 and 73 (Just a ton of information on this page)
P1000 - Tried and true cab heat fixes-2018
Would one 3 inch bilge fan be enough to help with the heat on a 1000-3 ? Don't have a clue about the 3 inch bilge fan but I know a 10 inch radiator fan works great and easy to mount, HD zip ties and a switch.:)
hondasxs.com
Now lets get started
I'm working in Texas in 100+ deg temps and the sand is super thick like 1 1/2+ft deep. I'm running the bike 25-35mph in like 5th gear 4k-6,5krpms 4x4 in high. I want to be very clear with the 32s and the sand I'm pushing the bike very hard like its under say 90-95% of its max load ability. I drop it a gear to say 8krpms and mash the gas to the floor no real change in speed or If I mash the gas to the floor in the gear I'm in it will keep picking up speed but it takes a min. This is a 3-7 mile ride in these conditions. If I hit solid ground like a main gravel road for that few seconds the bike will literally take off because its not under such a load.
In the morning when Its 75deg outside it want run hot just in the afternoon when its 100+ outside and the sand is 130+ it will jump from 2 bars to 3bars.
Test 1
After the first time it ran hot I added VP racing Cool Down you can buy at Tractor Supply. You could see it took a little longer to get to the 3rd Bar but not much difference but it defiantly went down to 2 bars faster. (I couldn't see any real temp numbers but I would say it ran cooler and defiantly helped it cool down faster)
Test 2 (I would like to add this is a nice piece for $20 and an easy install)
I added the Hondasxs (Pioneer 1000 Fan T-Harness DIY Fan Override! On/Off/Auto) I did the On and Auto I didn't care about being able to cut it off.
So For this test I cut it on before I started the hard ride. It made it take longer to go to 3 bars but it still did. Thats what I would think also. Sure it didn't change the actual temp just helped due to the fan was already on so the radator would have ran a little cooler when it was sitting still before I took off to start the run.
Test 3 All test are run with the radiator fan and under seat fans running
Outside Temp 75deg
Before the ride- under seat 105deg (You can see in the pic below the placement of my temp sensor under the seat)
After the ride- under seat 127deg
Test 4 Test ran just sitting no driving
Outside temp 82deg
Under seat- No fan- 148deg
Under seat - Fan on- 135deg
Test 5
I also took a temp gun to see what the hottest place on the cab was it is right out from the gas petal about where your calf muscle is. We will call this the side of seat hot spot for test reasons.
Outside temp 82deg
Side of seat hot spot- Fan on 109deg
Side of seat hot spot- driving around no load- 112deg
Driving around no load- Fan on- under seat temp 137deg
At this point I checked Radiator temp 178deg (with temp gun)
Test 6 (max load test) At this test we tested the sand and it was 131deg
Outside temp 99deg
Radiator temp 178deg- before
Radiator temp 203deg- after
Under seat- before 140deg
Under seat- after 167deg
Side of seat hot spot- 115deg before
Side of seat hot spot- 143deg after
Few thing I want to point out from the test under the seat changed the same amount as the radiator. Between test 5 and 6 outside temp changed a ton but under the seat stayed about the same. To me that says it is heat soaked based off engine and radiator temp. Also looks like in the spot I have the fan it is good for 10deg no matter the temp out side due to the heat soak.
If you look in the pic you will see my fan is pointed to push the air around the exhaust out but from my test the hottest place was on the other side like 10+deg hotter over by where you sit. Why? to me from the pics below it looks like they designed the bike to flow air out by the exhaust just like the way Im using my fan to help but The radiator lines are coming up on the other side by my butt and if you look back behind that to looks like the Transmission and not much room for air to flow by so maybe the air is bottle necking and getting stuck and heat soaking. No top of that you have the water hoses that are heat soaking and the motor and transmission. Just my thoughts.
So my next test will be to see if I can move my fan and try and help that air get out from the drivers side not worry about the exhaust side so much.
I don't feel that I have a real problem at this point but it gives me something to do by seeing if I can fix this problem. Seem like I have a great chance to see if I can help find the best placement for the fan under the seat. It will be 109deg tomorrow so great test day.
I stole the first 2 pics off the link above.
