P500 Floats like a butterfly, stings like a .................Red Wasp

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It might be the other way around. With my stock tires I was really going 38 when it said 42, with the 26" the speedo is dead on...
That's interesting. Did you check that with a car or an app on your phone or what?
 
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View attachment 17137 View attachment 17139 View attachment 17141 View attachment 17142 Haha. Ok so I disconnected my sway bar. Left the cabin for the 5 mile run to the NF. First a couple miles on gravel then rural asphalt road. No real discernible difference there. Didn't really feel the "drift" that some have mentioned. Once in the NF and on the abandoned logging roads (which are overgrown and rutted out to merely trails now) I began to feel the difference. It is as though the rear spring/shock assemblies are working independent so the ride feels more like (but not completely like) my PoPo, it seemed to float over the ruts and bumps and rocks. Mama noticed it right off.

In the 50 miles we did Saturday, I navigated through multiple off camber events, the kind that always lifted one wheel off the ground, but this time I kept my wheels on the ground. In one particular place we both were certain this was it, but it stayed upright, to both our surprise.

So, I still can't see why it has a sway bar, but for the time being, I'll leave it on but disconnected and wired up (yeah, the zip ties both broke) and continue to experiment with it before I'm certain enough to remove it altogether.

One other thing. Sunday's ride was to the Ouachita river where we finally found a piece of bank that we could negotiate down in and back out without winching. But running in the river, the Yellow Jacket had difficulties a couple times, and once, the Red Wasp had to winch him out. He said, "that's it, I've got to get new tires"! Oh, and on Saturdays ride, he clocked 50 miles while I clocked 45!!!! So, those of us with larger tires than stock are not accumulating accurate mileage. Oh, and I lost the pig tail off my receiver, the hook off my winch cable, and the scabbard off my chainsaw. :(

Any way, I have an overall positive review of the sway bar disconnect but will continue experimentation with it.

A few pics over the weekend.

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Outstanding,my only test is to see how my ultra light trailer effects it. But it won't be enough im sure to ever put it back on
 
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Outstanding,my only test is to see how my ultra light trailer effects it. But it won't be enough im sure to ever put it back on
Yes, that will be good to know. I had thought that I'd leave it on but disconnected. Not sure about that now. The zip ties failed and I had to wire it. Not really liking it being there if its not going to be used. I'm nearly certain that I'll be removing it, but I just want a few more rides under my belt coming in thinking yeah, this is definitely the way to go.
 
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Yes, that will be good to know. I had thought that I'd leave it on but disconnected. Not sure about that now. The zip ties failed and I had to wire it. Not really liking it being there if its not going to be used. I'm nearly certain that I'll be removing it, but I just want a few more rides under my belt coming in thinking yeah, this is definitely the way to go.
Completely get it, yeah I was gonna zip tie as well then could foresee it coming loose, and not that it could I didn't want any thing damaged accidentally do to it bouncing around in their. I put on 145 miles in 2 days without it. On to new mods, building my back window now, almost done with it.
 
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Yes, that will be good to know. I had thought that I'd leave it on but disconnected. Not sure about that now. The zip ties failed and I had to wire it. Not really liking it being there if its not going to be used. I'm nearly certain that I'll be removing it, but I just want a few more rides under my belt coming in thinking yeah, this is definitely the way to go.
As mentioned I put those 4 bolts. Back on the frame just to keep the gram clean and the threads in good shape.
 
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Completely get it, yeah I was gonna zip tie as well then could foresee it coming loose, and not that it could I didn't want any thing damaged accidentally do to it bouncing around in their. I put on 145 miles in 2 days without it. On to new mods, building my back window now, almost done with it.
Dude, I'm running but I can't keep up, back window!!! Oh well, guess I'll sleep when I'm dead, lol.
 
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As mentioned I put those 4 bolts. Back on the frame just to keep the gram clean and the threads in good shape.
Indubitably. I'll be doing that too when I remove it. Thanks for all your input on this, and all you've done.
 
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Lol... Request from wife
That's cool, although I don't hear or see much about her riding. You sure this isn't a little bit Stacy, lol?
 
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That's cool, although I don't hear or see much about her riding. You sure this isn't a little bit Stacy, lol?
K you got me, last week a friend on his 570 razor suggested it to help with the dust. So she did agree anything to help. I ordered a bunch of the Honda roll bar clamps and got a piece of goo acrylic. We'll see what happens.
 
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K you got me, last week a friend on his 570 razor suggested it to help with the dust. So she did agree anything to help. I ordered a bunch of the Honda roll bar clamps and got a piece of goo acrylic. We'll see what happens.
Haha, umhmm! I've seen your work, I know what'll happen. I'll be patiently waiting for the pictures.
 
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View attachment 17137 View attachment 17139 View attachment 17141 View attachment 17142 Haha. Ok so I disconnected my sway bar. Left the cabin for the 5 mile run to the NF. First a couple miles on gravel then rural asphalt road. No real discernible difference there. Didn't really feel the "drift" that some have mentioned. Once in the NF and on the abandoned logging roads (which are overgrown and rutted out to merely trails now) I began to feel the difference. It is as though the rear spring/shock assemblies are working independent so the ride feels more like (but not completely like) my PoPo, it seemed to float over the ruts and bumps and rocks. Mama noticed it right off.

In the 50 miles we did Saturday, I navigated through multiple off camber events, the kind that always lifted one wheel off the ground, but this time I kept my wheels on the ground. In one particular place we both were certain this was it, but it stayed upright, to both our surprise.

So, I still can't see why it has a sway bar, but for the time being, I'll leave it on but disconnected and wired up (yeah, the zip ties both broke) and continue to experiment with it before I'm certain enough to remove it altogether.

One other thing. Sunday's ride was to the Ouachita river where we finally found a piece of bank that we could negotiate down in and back out without winching. But running in the river, the Yellow Jacket had difficulties a couple times, and once, the Red Wasp had to winch him out. He said, "that's it, I've got to get new tires"! Oh, and on Saturdays ride, he clocked 50 miles while I clocked 45!!!! So, those of us with larger tires than stock are not accumulating accurate mileage. Oh, and I lost the pig tail off my receiver, the hook off my winch cable, and the scabbard off my chainsaw. :(

Any way, I have an overall positive review of the sway bar disconnect but will continue experimentation with it.

A few pics over the weekend.

View attachment 17137 View attachment 17139 View attachment 17141 View attachment 17142
Check your speed with gps. Mine was off with stocks. With 26" it is actually accurate on mine. Now when it says 40 it is legit. So if your speed is now accurate, mileage will be accurate. I bet his is wrong
 
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Check your speed with gps. Mine was off with stocks. With 26" it is actually accurate on mine. Now when it says 40 it is legit. So if your speed is now accurate, mileage will be accurate. I bet his is wrong
Well you're the second one to suggest that Talen. I already posted that we both will check our speed with our phones this weekend. Thanks Talen, I hope you guys are right.
 
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Well you're the second one to suggest that Talen. I already posted that we both will check our speed with our phones this weekend. Thanks Talen, I hope you guys are right.

Its almost like Honda designed these things for 26" tires then at the last minute to save money they went with 24", or maybe to lower center of gravity for safety. The gearing, speedo, fender clearance, brakes, appearance all seem like it was supposed to have bigger tires.
 
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Its almost like Honda designed these things for 26" tires then at the last minute to save money they went with 24", or maybe to lower center of gravity for safety. The gearing, speedo, fender clearance, brakes, appearance all seem like it was supposed to have bigger tires.
I agree. That sxs looks really good with 26's, and sitting next to my buddies it's so apparent. They really do look a little funny with 24's. I have 26's so I'm hoping to find them accurate like you guys did. Thank you again.
 
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Outstanding,my only test is to see how my ultra light trailer effects it. But it won't be enough im sure to ever put it back on
What kind of trailer is that?
 
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