Front differential lock ?

[illinoisdave]

i checked with them this fits the Trax Lock differentials which is a limited slip type.

 

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[ohanacreek]

How about a Lincoln locker? It would work but there's no going back after that.





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Not good if your on asphalt or anything that provides excellent traction, they tend to break the welds and cause all sorts of mayhem. I'd be worried about it coming apart at the most inopportune time on a trail, but yeah thats an option.

 

[illinoisdave]

i may try to change the front differential out with one that is in the front of my 15 foreman 500 it has diff lock on it. i am trying to find ring and pinion gears to match back up to the original P500 gears.

 

[Chooglin]

i may try to change the front differential out with one that is in the front of my 15 foreman 500 it has diff lock on it. i am trying to find ring and pinion gears to match back up to the original P500 gears.

If you can get something figured out , that works , your going to get a butt load of likes for this one !

 

[Chooglin]

Why can't Honda use something like this on the p500 ?
Traction Control Systems & Differentials - SmartLocker Locking Differential, Limited Slip, Traction Control, ATV | TEAM Industries

 

[Montecresto]

If you can get something figured out , that works , your going to get a butt load of likes for this one !

And maybe a side business.

 

[illinoisdave]

ok i found something strange while looking at gear ratios in the front and rear differentials for this. i used the parts diagram on bikebandit for OEM parts and it shows a discrepancy between front and rear ratios. the parts diagram on here just takes me to a dealer page no diagrams?? does someone have the link to Honda somehow to verify the ratios?? i went to another aftermarket parts supplier and the part diagram shows the same as bikebandit. for some reason it shows a 13/53 front which i believe and the rear as 21/53 which i dont. i have been researching what it would take to put a locking diff from say a newer foreman in this machine and change gear ratios in either front or rear to match up.

 

[ehart814]

ok i found something strange while looking at gear ratios in the front and rear differentials for this. i used the parts diagram on bikebandit for OEM parts and it shows a discrepancy between front and rear ratios. the parts diagram on here just takes me to a dealer page no diagrams?? does someone have the link to Honda somehow to verify the ratios?? i went to another aftermarket parts supplier and the part diagram shows the same as bikebandit. for some reason it shows a 13/53 front which i believe and the rear as 21/53 which i dont. i have been researching what it would take to put a locking diff from say a newer foreman in this machine and change gear ratios in either front or rear to match up.

wow that is strange. I wonder if it's possible they have different output ratios to the front and back? The 21/53 setup would be stronger, which would make sense since the rear does more work than the front...

Keep up the research... I'm hoping you find a solution for us!

 

[ehart814]

I verified your findings on the different ratios. It appears there is an additional gear reduction before the rear differential.

 

[illinoisdave]

i was thinking it was a misprint on the part diagrams. this looks like a typical honda transmision with a propeller shaft setup that runs through the transmision

 

[Chooglin]

Have you gotten any further with this ?

 

[Chooglin]

If I had some extra cash right now, I would be buying this !
OEM Honda Pioneer Front Final Drive Differential Pioneer 700 SXS 700

 

[Chooglin]

Just looking at these diagrams, part #9 on the p500 could be swapped out with part #8 from the p700. It looks like a direct bolt on.
You would also need to buy the rest of the internals (#17,19,29,25....etc.)from the 700 to complete it.

You would then need to either find a shorter axle for the passenger side or have one made.

I would only be concerned that the axle might be short lived because of the angle of the axle.

 

[Montecresto]

Just looking at these diagrams, part #9 on the p500 could be swapped out with part #8 from the p700. It looks like a direct bolt on.
You would also need to buy the rest of the internals (#17,19,29,25....etc.)from the 700 to complete it.

You would then need to either find a shorter axle for the passenger side or have one made.

I would only be concerned that the axle might be short lived because of the angle of the axle.
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Better go ahead and have three made.

 

[pFive]

Or longer arms ....

 

[Chooglin]

Or longer arms ....

True but you would have to extend all of them or it would look awkward!

 

[pFive]

True but you would have to extend all of them or it would look awkward!

Darn....What in the world would I do with more suspension travel...Lol.

 

[illinoisdave]

still working on this if i go to the 700 differential it is wider which would involve lengthening the a arms. the passenger side would be too short to cut down the axles and still have any suspension travel. does someone have a width measurement on the 700 differential?

 

[Chooglin]

still working on this if i go to the 700 differential it is wider which would involve lengthening the a arms. the passenger side would be too short to cut down the axles and still have any suspension travel. does someone have a width measurement on the 700 differential?

@illinoisdave did you read my post #33(first paragraph), do you think this is possible ?

 

[Martin]

Yep, seems this does not work the same as the limited slip diff found on many Honda atv's. Plus, All brakes are tied together.
Maybe there will be a aftermarket in the future.

I am working on something for this... I ordered a solenoid that I will be putting on-line at the rear break so I can stop oil pressure to reach the rear caliper. By doing this, I'll only apply pressure to the front wheels and I hope it will do the same as on the Rubi and other Honda ATV. The reason why I want it at the back is that you have no modifications to do. Just disconnect the flexible hose, insert your solenoid, run a wire to a switch in the dash and go!!!

As soon as I get it done, I'll post results.