How many of our members vote?

[BigOL3]

Amen! 85 here... but I ain’t no damned millennial! Our generation has been called a lot of things.

I thought millennial's were 20 yo.

 

[Admin]

 

[JTW]

I thought millennial's were 20 yo.

Me too... but apparently anyone who was alive during the 2000’s is a millennial by today’s standards. I think it’s just a way of spreading the blame to a larger group.

 

[Tflynn]

Me too... but apparently anyone who was alive during the 2000’s is a millennial by today’s standards. I think it’s just a way of spreading the blame to a larger group.

We googled this just the other night. A millennial by definition is anyone born between 81 and I think 97 which seem like two very random years. Then after millennials is the “Post Millennials”.

I think later millennials and all post millennials are who earned the bad reputation.

My opinion- if you can REMEMBER not having cell phones or the internet you shouldn’t be lumped in to the millennial generation

 

[JTW]

We googled this just the other night. A millennial by definition is anyone born between 81 and I think 97 which seem like two very random years. Then after millennials is the “Post Millennials”.

I think later millennials and all post millennials are who earned the bad reputation.

My opinion- if you can REMEMBER not having cell phones or the internet you shouldn’t be lumped in to the millennial generation

Agreed. For f***s sake I still barely have internet where I live.

 

[orangecrate]

I started voting Democratic but changed to Republican when I returned home from Vietnam in the 60's . The Dems started the socialist movement about that time as I'm aware of. I still feel they killed Kennedy because he would not go with their master plan to control the US. God bless America!

 

[CumminsPusher]

After I posted this thread, I thought ow poop! I really appreciate every one keeping this civil! With the 4th coming up, just thought it was a fitting thread. After all voting is a lot of what the 4th is about. Our company is working the 4th and taking Friday off for a three day week end, Yea!

I’ve been waiting to see if this turns ugly. Everyone is passionate on thier beliefs but some go over board.

 

[NTCPrezJB]

I've given our system some thought over my short number of years, I'd like to propose we make a few changes to it....

1) Every public office gets an average pay of its constituents. Local at the local level clear up to the president getting a national average.
2) Every public office would have term limits. Not advocating something crazy short, but nothing more than say 12 years of service and all positions count towards that. If you start at the local level you get 2 years max. If you get promoted to the state level you get another 5 years max. If you get promoted to national you get yourself another 5 years max. We could play with the overall max and the levels and improve this but I think it would clearly be better than how we handle it today.
3) Benefits are only paid to active public officials. Zero retirement plan beyond a 401k and that wouldn't even have matching funds deposited.
4) Voting is mandatory for the elected officials and as this is a truly a republic we operate under a method for quick feedback for the elected officials to hear from their constituents how they should vote on each matter. It would be easy to do this with technology available to us today. Hell American Idol has done it for years (and sadly gets more votes than even the presidential years if memory serves). Issue votes could be sent out weekly. You have 48 hours to cast your vote to your representative.
5) Remove all party tags completely. No one agrees with their "party" all the time anyway unless they blindly follow. I'd just as soon not have blind followers.
6) Voting in congress is done on an issue by issue basis only. I don't have "the" answer of how to do this with the actual budget, but there are plenty of things that get wrapped together that have no reason to be. Maybe each candidate votes for the order of the top 100 (or whatever) budget items and then the aggregate of that sets the order the budget is gone through in line item detail for a dollar amount assignment. Budget of the year is X if they only make it through 80% of the items they want to budget they get two chances to adjust the the numbers above, but once the total budget dollars are allocated then everything else is shelved until the next quarterly budget meeting (or whatever).
7) All laws and issues are wrote in plain English. If more than 20% of a panel of say average IQ 5th graders can't understand it then it is automatically eliminated from this weeks voter poll. If it can't be explained in terms an average 10 year old can understand then maybe we have a secondary panel of 16-18 year old's that can review it and it be allowed back on the voter poll.

Not suggesting I have all the answers or this is an all inclusive list, but I think these could be some relatively easy things to weed out anyone in it for themselves rather than the greater good of the nation.

Crime and punishment (I've posted elsewhere on some ideas there as well, but I recently thought of this one so I'm including it here) ... Any fines as part of punishments are a % of gross income. Parking ticket for someone making minimum wage stings the wallet the same way it does for someone making six or seven figures a year. Couple that with an increasing incentive to learn with subsequent offenses and they start including hard labor for a third offense. Bet your bottom dollar no one parks in a handicap spot (or whatever) a third time.


One man's opinion and definitely open to improvement

 

[Smitty335]

I've given our system some thought over my short number of years, I'd like to propose we make a few changes to it....

1) Every public office gets an average pay of its constituents. Local at the local level clear up to the president getting a national average.
2) Every public office would have term limits. Not advocating something crazy short, but nothing more than say 12 years of service and all positions count towards that. If you start at the local level you get 2 years max. If you get promoted to the state level you get another 5 years max. If you get promoted to national you get yourself another 5 years max. We could play with the overall max and the levels and improve this but I think it would clearly be better than how we handle it today.
3) Benefits are only paid to active public officials. Zero retirement plan beyond a 401k and that wouldn't even have matching funds deposited.
4) Voting is mandatory for the elected officials and as this is a truly a republic we operate under a method for quick feedback for the elected officials to hear from their constituents how they should vote on each matter. It would be easy to do this with technology available to us today. Hell American Idol has done it for years (and sadly gets more votes than even the presidential years if memory serves). Issue votes could be sent out weekly. You have 48 hours to cast your vote to your representative.
5) Remove all party tags completely. No one agrees with their "party" all the time anyway unless they blindly follow. I'd just as soon not have blind followers.
6) Voting in congress is done on an issue by issue basis only. I don't have "the" answer of how to do this with the actual budget, but there are plenty of things that get wrapped together that have no reason to be. Maybe each candidate votes for the order of the top 100 (or whatever) budget items and then the aggregate of that sets the order the budget is gone through in line item detail for a dollar amount assignment. Budget of the year is X if they only make it through 80% of the items they want to budget they get two chances to adjust the the numbers above, but once the total budget dollars are allocated then everything else is shelved until the next quarterly budget meeting (or whatever).
7) All laws and issues are wrote in plain English. If more than 20% of a panel of say average IQ 5th graders can't understand it then it is automatically eliminated from this weeks voter poll. If it can't be explained in terms an average 10 year old can understand then maybe we have a secondary panel of 16-18 year old's that can review it and it be allowed back on the voter poll.

Not suggesting I have all the answers or this is an all inclusive list, but I think these could be some relatively easy things to weed out anyone in it for themselves rather than the greater good of the nation.

Crime and punishment (I've posted elsewhere on some ideas there as well, but I recently thought of this one so I'm including it here) ... Any fines as part of punishments are a % of gross income. Parking ticket for someone making minimum wage stings the wallet the same way it does for someone making six or seven figures a year. Couple that with an increasing incentive to learn with subsequent offenses and they start including hard labor for a third offense. Bet your bottom dollar no one parks in a handicap spot (or whatever) a third time.


One man's opinion and definitely open to improvement

I would like to add, all funds are distributed equally by the government for elections at a set rate, no-one or Corporations can be involved in funding elections. Get the big money out!

 

[NTCPrezJB]

I would like to add, all funds are distributed equally by the government for elections at a set rate, no-one or Corporations can be involved in funding elections. Get the big money out!

Excellent idea in my opinion!

 

[NTCPrezJB]

I would like to add, all funds are distributed equally by the government for elections at a set rate, no-one or Corporations can be involved in funding elections. Get the big money out!

HondaSxS members for 2020! We are already working better together than DC.

 

[Yankee]

I've given our system some thought over my short number of years, I'd like to propose we make a few changes to it....

1) Every public office gets an average pay of its constituents. Local at the local level clear up to the president getting a national average.
2) Every public office would have term limits. Not advocating something crazy short, but nothing more than say 12 years of service and all positions count towards that. If you start at the local level you get 2 years max. If you get promoted to the state level you get another 5 years max. If you get promoted to national you get yourself another 5 years max. We could play with the overall max and the levels and improve this but I think it would clearly be better than how we handle it today.
3) Benefits are only paid to active public officials. Zero retirement plan beyond a 401k and that wouldn't even have matching funds deposited.
4) Voting is mandatory for the elected officials and as this is a truly a republic we operate under a method for quick feedback for the elected officials to hear from their constituents how they should vote on each matter. It would be easy to do this with technology available to us today. Hell American Idol has done it for years (and sadly gets more votes than even the presidential years if memory serves). Issue votes could be sent out weekly. You have 48 hours to cast your vote to your representative.
5) Remove all party tags completely. No one agrees with their "party" all the time anyway unless they blindly follow. I'd just as soon not have blind followers.
6) Voting in congress is done on an issue by issue basis only. I don't have "the" answer of how to do this with the actual budget, but there are plenty of things that get wrapped together that have no reason to be. Maybe each candidate votes for the order of the top 100 (or whatever) budget items and then the aggregate of that sets the order the budget is gone through in line item detail for a dollar amount assignment. Budget of the year is X if they only make it through 80% of the items they want to budget they get two chances to adjust the the numbers above, but once the total budget dollars are allocated then everything else is shelved until the next quarterly budget meeting (or whatever).
7) All laws and issues are wrote in plain English. If more than 20% of a panel of say average IQ 5th graders can't understand it then it is automatically eliminated from this weeks voter poll. If it can't be explained in terms an average 10 year old can understand then maybe we have a secondary panel of 16-18 year old's that can review it and it be allowed back on the voter poll.

Not suggesting I have all the answers or this is an all inclusive list, but I think these could be some relatively easy things to weed out anyone in it for themselves rather than the greater good of the nation.

Crime and punishment (I've posted elsewhere on some ideas there as well, but I recently thought of this one so I'm including it here) ... Any fines as part of punishments are a % of gross income. Parking ticket for someone making minimum wage stings the wallet the same way it does for someone making six or seven figures a year. Couple that with an increasing incentive to learn with subsequent offenses and they start including hard labor for a third offense. Bet your bottom dollar no one parks in a handicap spot (or whatever) a third time.


One man's opinion and definitely open to improvement

I just wished the Daggum politicians could use their heads to try and solve the issues instead of arguing about it. Use some common sense. Makes me mad that all us common folk bust our a$$e$ just for them to take a good part of our pay checks and spend it on dumb $h!t that helps no one but lazy f's and illegals

 

[NTCPrezJB]

I just wished the Daggum politicians could use their heads to try and solve the issues instead of arguing about it. Use some common sense. Makes me mad that all us common folk bust our a$$e$ just for them to take a good part of our pay checks and spend it on dumb $h!t that helps no one but lazy f's and illegals

The social safety net can definitely use some improvement. I’d advocate for deciding a poverty line of tent cities and three meals. Basically bare essential food, shelter, medical and trade/craft/basic education. The trade/craft education is opt in but participants earn savings credits for a house down payment or rent assistance for six months or something. This poverty is where you go if you file for assistance. There is no bankruptcy anymore. Insolvency leads to this social poverty. Three strike rule on being able to do the trade/craft education.

We could bring any immigrants/refugees through the same process except the education part is mandatory.

Again not all the answers but another idea to build from.

 

[100Acre]

TRUMP !!!!!

 

[Smitty335]

HondaSxS members for 2020! We are already working better together than DC.

I nominate JTW to replace Trump as President, so that way there won't be much change other than a smattering of Clinton sex scandals added, HA! His cabinet will probably consist of blow up dolls! Ok, Ok I quit!

 

[Smitty335]

I’ve been waiting to see if this turns ugly. Everyone is passionate on thier beliefs but some go over board.

Yea, we all got tired of Richards Do Better Talks, HA! So now we try to behave!

 

[Choogsbro]

TRUMP !!!!!

2020

 

[Smitty335]

2020

Probably will happen! I don't mind! If @JTW doesn't run!

 

[Choogsbro]

Dems seem to be imploding. Maxeen Waters is off the rails.

 

[JTW]

Dems seem to be imploding. Maxeen Waters is off the rails.

That b**** is f***ing full potato!

 

[Smitty335]

That b**** is f***ing full potato!

Hey, I like potatoes, wouldn't compare them to something stupid, maybe beets, HA!