P1000 Lift vs Stiffness?

[Bradley-Thornton]

So I have the C-Fab A-Arms with 3in lift built in. I also have the 2.5in High Lifter lift.

It's all off the SXS at this time the C-fab is a must. But the question is this. My wife will be driving this 90% of the time so I don't want it too stiff.

Is the lifts really adding stiffness if so what is you opinion should I just do the C-Fab and hold off on the 2.5in for now or is the 2.5in not going to make it that more stiff?

I know if I had spring spacers is would be more stiff but I don't see how this adds that much besides shock angle.

 

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[Average_Joe]

It stiffened the ride quite a bit but I personally like it I don't feel the bumps nearly as bad.

We're the cfab arms worth the $$$ and which ball joints did you go with? I want to convince my wife they are worth the price I need some testimonials to help my case.

 

[Bradley-Thornton]

It stiffened the ride quite a bit but I personally like it I don't feel the bumps nearly as bad.

We're the cfab arms worth the $$$ and which ball joints did you go with? I want to convince my wife they are worth the price I need some testimonials to help my case.

Just wrote a review hope it helps.

P1000 - C-Fab lift Review.

 

[Bradley-Thornton]

Anyone else I know some of you are big into Shocks and springs and may have some good info.

 

[Bradley-Thornton]

It stiffened the ride quite a bit but I personally like it I don't feel the bumps nearly as bad.

If its more stiff you should feel the bumps more right I don't understand this. Sorry it just maybe me looking at it wrong.

 

[joeymt33]

Can you combine both of those lift kits and keep the CV’s from binding? I’m running a CATVOS 3” arched A-arms up front and the CVs will just start to bump like they are about to bind. I know I could not run anymore lift.

 

[Bradley-Thornton]

Can you combine both of those lift kits and keep the CV’s from binding? I’m running a CATVOS 3” arched A-arms up front and the CVs will just start to bump like they are about to bind. I know I could not run anymore lift.

The guy that makes the lift said he has had no problems with anyone breaking a axle with just his lift.

Then I called him and asked him if I could use the 2.5 High Lifter lift also he said I could but he did have one guy break an axle but it was one of them been out riding all night drinking and the guy told him something had to give. BUT it had happened.

I don't feel it that bad of a bind

 

[swsebek]

Until you posted them pics I thought you were nuts. But I see now and that thing looks great.
Them axles do look steep. Wish they were red??

 

[JTW]

I wouldn’t add the HL if I were you.. I think it will give you trouble with the lifted a arms... I love my HL lift but I don’t think it’s for you with your setup.

 

[ohanacreek]

So I have the C-Fab A-Arms with 3in lift built in. I also have the 2.5in High Lifter lift.

It's all off the SXS at this time the C-fab is a must. But the question is this. My wife will be driving this 90% of the time so I don't want it too stiff.

Is the lifts really adding stiffness if so what is you opinion should I just do the C-Fab and hold off on the 2.5in for now or is the 2.5in not going to make it that more stiff?

I know if I had spring spacers is would be more stiff but I don't see how this adds that much besides shock angle.

High lifter shifts the shock angle and makes it more stiff because the leverage the suspension has on the shock/spring is less so it rides stiffer.

A “spacer lift” compresses the softer rate portion of the dual rate spring and makes it ride rougher.

The best way to lift it is by moving the shock mounting point inline with the factory location. 1” of shift should give you about 2” of lift, you still retain stock ride quality.




This was 4” of lift on my 700, I was pushing the limits of droop on the axles.
I moved the bottom of the shock “slightly” inboard to keep the lift from flipping outward and screwing stuff up.

 

[Bradley-Thornton]

High lifter shifts the shock angle and makes it more stiff because the leverage the suspension has on the shock/spring is less so it rides stiffer.

A “spacer lift” compresses the softer rate portion of the dual rate spring and makes it ride rougher.

The best way to lift it is by moving the shock mounting point inline with the factory location. 1” of shift should give you about 2” of lift, you still retain stock ride quality.


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This was 4” of lift on my 700, I was pushing the limits of droop on the axles.
I moved the bottom of the shock “slightly” inboard to keep the lift from flipping outward and screwing stuff up.

Yes, this is how C-fab did it.

 

[Average_Joe]

You would have to ride mine to understand I used to get jarred around on big bumps killing my back with the HL lift the same dips in the road don't feel as rough. The first day with the lift I live near washed out lime rock roads the same wash outs I used to have to brake for because of how rough they were I hit them now and inside the cab you don't feel it nearly as bad, I ran up on one at speed I told my wife hold on this is going to hurt we hit it barely felt anything my wife commented that wasn't nearly as rough as it used to be pre-lift.

 

[DDDonkey]

The guy that makes the lift said he has had no problems with anyone breaking a axle with just his lift.

Then I called him and asked him if I could use the 2.5 High Lifter lift also he said I could but he did have one guy break an axle but it was one of them been out riding all night drinking and the guy told him something had to give. BUT it had happened.

I don't feel it that bad of a bind

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Off topic but how is the power loss with your set up, and what is the top speed now. Thanks!

 

[Bradley-Thornton]

Off topic but how is the power loss with your set up, and what is the top speed now. Thanks!

Not sure top speed not my thing. I'm not at home but may try it when I get home in a few weeks.

To me it still has a ton of power I got in some bad mud and it still turned them no problem. It has a little less gear at take off so it isn't as torque but I like that. To me it tamed the beast a little and now I'm not scared to give it gas and trough the kids out the back. To me its just right and the wife likes it better now from that point and she's the main driver.

 

[DDDonkey]

Thanks for the reply, I know what you mean this thing spins the tires with no issues on the road. I was asking because I do drive mine on the road and going to put a larger tire on it. Thanks again!

 

[aprils_fool]

The guy that makes the lift said he has had no problems with anyone breaking a axle with just his lift.

Then I called him and asked him if I could use the 2.5 High Lifter lift also he said I could but he did have one guy break an axle but it was one of them been out riding all night drinking and the guy told him something had to give. BUT it had happened.

I don't feel it that bad of a bind

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Man that looks Bad Ass!!!
Would like to see side profile pic too if you have one.

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[Bradley-Thornton]

Man that looks Bad Ass!!!
Would like to see side profile pic too if you have one.

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Some on my build page.

P1000 - Mud Riding Build 32in tires 34in tires

 

[Cooterbob]

I wouldn’t add the HL if I were you.. I think it will give you trouble with the lifted a arms... I love my HL lift but I don’t think it’s for you with your setup.

Did your HL lift stiffen your ride up too much? I want to get one but when I put one on my teryx it stiffened it up so much it beat me to death . I like how the 1000le handles and I don't want to ruin it.thanks

 

[JTW]

Did your HL lift stiffen your ride up too much? I want to get one but when I put one on my teryx it stiffened it up so much it beat me to death . I like how the 1000le handles and I don't want to ruin it.thanks

I like the stiffer feeling.. I can’t say it so too much.. but to each there own. If you have an LE you can just adjust the preload on the Fox shocks to your liking. I’m running 1.5 inches of preload on the front and 3/4” on the rear with the HL lift.

 

[Cooterbob]

Ok thanks , sounds good!