P1000 most important vent line

[crazychris]

huh well I guess maybe at least check them when air filter needs to be checked.

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[tbaker]

Bayouownbeer your kit is the one I have just getting around to installing it thanks

 

[DarkHorse]

So I’ve read all sorts of forum threads about extending and raising the vent lines. Sounds like cheap insurance and a good thing to do. While I appreciate and enjoy reading about how many of you really push your Pioneers to their “submarine” limits… I, however, primarily do simple trail riding in mostly dry conditions, and may encounter at most a shallow stream / puddles or get caught in an unexpected summer thunderstorm.

So, my question is: how high do I really need to run the vent lines?

I prefer a hidden installation… I really don’t like seeing the vent line hoses running up the outside of the ROPS to the roof line attached with zip ties. Where possible, I’d like to run them inside the ROPS if possible.

So, for the gas and subtrans vent lines… wouldn’t running them up into the ROPS to the joint where the top half is bolted to the bottom half (about top of door level) be good enough? The joint is welded solid, so I don’t see how water could possibly get up there from deep puddles or high pressure washing… you’d really have to submerge the vehicle. So, my plan is to continue the vent lines within the frame, over to the ROPS, and up inside as high as the hoses will go. Thoughts?

Next… for the rear differential vent line… not really sure where to run that one, as the rear ROPS tubes don’t appear to have any entry points. Was thinking of drilling a hole to fit the hose, but worried that would compromise the ROPS strength? Other option would be to run the hose along the frame to the center passenger ROPS with the other two vents lines.

As for the front differential vent line, really not sure where to run that… maybe just up higher to some place under the dash?

For the clear vent line going to the electric fan… not sure if I even need to do anything with that one... appears to already be high enough and protected.

So, just curious what other riders, who don’t ride in such extreme conditions, have done? For just simple trail riding, shallow stream crossing / puddle splashing and perhaps the occasional monsoon thunderstorm downpour, how high is good enough?

thanks!

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[joeymt33]

So I’ve read all sorts of forum threads about extending and raising the vent lines. Sounds like cheap insurance and a good thing to do. While I appreciate and enjoy reading about how many of you really push your Pioneers to their “submarine” limits… I, however, primarily do simple trail riding in mostly dry conditions, and may encounter at most a shallow stream / puddles or get caught in an unexpected summer thunderstorm.

So, my question is: how high do I really need to run the vent lines?

I prefer a hidden installation… I really don’t like seeing the vent line hoses running up the outside of the ROPS to the roof line attached with zip ties. Where possible, I’d like to run them inside the ROPS if possible.

So, for the gas and subtrans vent lines… wouldn’t running them up into the ROPS to the joint where the top half is bolted to the bottom half (about top of door level) be good enough? The joint is welded solid, so I don’t see how water could possibly get up there from deep puddles or high pressure washing… you’d really have to submerge the vehicle. So, my plan is to continue the vent lines within the frame, over to the ROPS, and up inside as high as the hoses will go. Thoughts?

Next… for the rear differential vent line… not really sure where to run that one, as the rear ROPS tubes don’t appear to have any entry points. Was thinking of drilling a hole to fit the hose, but worried that would compromise the ROPS strength? Other option would be to run the hose along the frame to the center passenger ROPS with the other two vents lines.

As for the front differential vent line, really not sure where to run that… maybe just up higher to some place under the dash?

For the clear vent line going to the electric fan… not sure if I even need to do anything with that one... appears to already be high enough and protected.

So, just curious what other riders, who don’t ride in such extreme conditions, have done? For just simple trail riding, shallow stream crossing / puddle splashing and perhaps the occasional monsoon thunderstorm downpour, how high is good enough?

thanks!

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I extended my front differential into the area under the hood. I put a small two-stroke gas filter on the end of the tube.

I extended the rear differential and sub transmission between the dump bed and the back of the front seat. It is only about as high as the back of the seat. They also have filters on them.

Extended the radiator vent into the under hood compartment as well and put a filter on it.

Mine are hidden and only visible if I dump the bed or pop the hood.

There are pictures of them somewhere on the forum in one of these threads about this topic but I haven’t found it yet.

 

[DarkHorse]

Ah, thanks. Ya, that is what I'll do also... looks like I can't get into the ROPS without drilling a hole... so, simply running them up behind the front seat looks like the way to go. Thanks!

 

[SavageTech]

 

[TheHoover]

Awesome info. Doing rear diff and sub trans this weekend while I’m doing the full 100 mile service.

 

[DarkHorse]

So, did a decent test run with the vent lines run behind the seat. However, I definitely smell gas fumes from the drivers seat... I imagine it is even worse in the rear seating position. Then, after more thought, it's probably not wise to have the gas vent line behind the seats, over a hot motor. just asking for trouble no? So, I think I'm going to find another location to route it.

 

[joeymt33]

So, did a decent test run with the vent lines run behind the seat. However, I definitely smell gas fumes from the drivers seat... I imagine it is even worse in the rear seating position. Then, after more thought, it's probably not wise to have the gas vent line behind the seats, over a hot motor. just asking for trouble no? So, I think I'm going to find another location to route it.

Maybe the gas smell was coming from somewhere else? I’ve had this set up for a while and don’t always smell it. Maybe after a fill up.

 

[TheHoover]

Maybe the gas smell was coming from somewhere else? I’ve had this set up for a while and don’t always smell it. Maybe after a fill up.

Can I ask you where at behind your seat? I had mine back there between the outside shield and air box. But moved it because it gets so hot right there.. am I over worrying?

 

[joeymt33]

Can I ask you where at behind your seat? I had mine back there between the outside shield and air box. But moved it because it gets so hot right there.. am I over worrying?

Maybe I can find a picture.....

For now I can say that I went to the back near the passenger side seatbelt and then up the back. It favors the passenger side quite a bit.

 

[joeymt33]

Found one...

I used Tygon line and out a small engine fuel filter on the end. The kind of filters used on 2-smoke saws and line trimmers.

 

[RedFred1]

I'm using these for filters...

FredD

 

[sporttrac4x4]

I'm using these for filters...

FredD

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Don't you think water will soak into them. I think a regular small gas filter would work better.

 

[RedFred1]

Dollar walmart air box for my 3 vents... behind drivers seat. Yeah, that is an orange box to match my buggy... Sweet!

 

[RedFred1]

Don't you think water will soak into them. I think a regular small gas filter would work better.

How is water gonna soak into them?

 

[JTW]

View attachment 85397 Dollar walmart air box for my 3 vents... behind drivers seat. Yeah, that is an orange box to match my buggy... Sweet!

If the box is sealed how is that any different than a bellows?

 

[RedFred1]

If the box is sealed how is that any different than a bellows?

That would be silly wouldn't it...

FredD

 

[JTW]

That would be silly wouldn't it...

FredD

So what do you have going on? Does the box vent higher up?

 

[RedFred1]

No, the box is not air/water tight... It is only splash protection. The back is honeycombed and stands off the mounting plate. Since it is seat height, that is all I need and as high or higher than the original location. Since the panel covers it, it should be protected in the rain or from splashes. I used a velcro strap to ensure the lid stays on.

Without venting, I agree, it would be problematic. To be honest with you, I am more worried about bees than water plugging up the works...

Thanks,

FredD