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So I’m new to the forum… bought a Pionner 700-4 brand new in 2019 as a utility vehicle, etc. Have really babied it, almost no off-road use, will drive through a meadow every now and then…. kindve just cruise around the subdivision periodically, etc.

Anyway, I’ve always noticed since I got it when it was parked in the garage, and I looked at it from behind, it leaned fairly heavily downward toward the passenger side. I always assumed our garage floor just sloped that way because the UTV was brand new….

I have a neighbor who is an engineer and he was over the other day and commented on it leaning — I said I always just assumed it was the garage floor, and he was like “No way, that’s leaning way to much to be the garage floor”.

Trying to keep this short, I put a digital level on what I believe are the front axels and they were definitely not equal. I looked over all the tires and put some pressure on them on they all seem good. Outside of checking the PSI to make sure they’re all exact, what else could be wrong? Pictures attached! Thank you.

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i was gonna say check your rear shocks but they are set the same. the front axles are different lengths they will always be at different angles. was the gas tank full when you noticed the lean? mine used to lean the passenger side when new and full a gas. take something about 40 lbs and put in the driver side floorboard or seat and see if ut levels up. if so then its just the tank being full.

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Ok, good to know on the axles…. The gas tank is usually always pretty much full, I keep Sta-Bil in it, and if I run it very much I usually refill it.

It may have just been in my head since the guy said something about it, but it was pulling pretty hard to the right when I drove it yesterday. It may have always been doing that though and I just wasn’t paying attention.
 
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Ok, good to know on the axles…. The gas tank is usually always pretty much full, I keep Sta-Bil in it, and if I run it very much I usually refill it.

It may have just been in my head since the guy said something about it, but it was pulling pretty hard to the right when I drove it yesterday. It may have always been doing that though and I just wasn’t paying attention.
if its pulling to the right with you in it. the toe is off on the alignment. can use a tape measure and 2 2x4 on the front tires and do thatfailry easy . just be sure to move it back and then forward after each adjustment and always measure and adjust when after you stop going forward.

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So if I’m understanding correctly, the assumption would be the right front tire is toe’d out if it’s pulling to the right?

And if that proves to be the case, I would adjust the bolt to push the tire ‘outward’ on the front right tire since the adjustment bar is on the back of the tire?
 
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So if I’m understanding correctly, the assumption would be the right front tire is toe’d out if it’s pulling to the right?

And if that proves to be the case, I would adjust the bolt to push the tire ‘outward’ on the front right tire since the adjustment bar is on the back of the tire?
i cant remeber if its negative pulls rightor positive toe pulls right but yes if you need your front of the tire in you adjust the tire tod out. i usually do both sides about a 1/4 turn each at a time. this will keep your steering wheel in the same position

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So if I’m understanding correctly, the assumption would be the right front tire is toe’d out if it’s pulling to the right?

And if that proves to be the case, I would adjust the bolt to push the tire ‘outward’ on the front right tire since the adjustment bar is on the back of the tire?
It could be either.
 
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It could be either.
So, again, apologies, I’m far from mechanically inclined.
Are you basically saying if it’s pulling to the right, it could be that the front right tire is toe’d out…. ‘Or’ the front left tire is toe’d in?

and if so, how do you determine which one is off as opposed to just picking one and adjusting until they’re even? Meaning both would be toe’d in or out? Lol.
 
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So, again, apologies, I’m far from mechanically inclined.
Are you basically saying if it’s pulling to the right, it could be that the front right tire is toe’d out…. ‘Or’ the front left tire is toe’d in?

and if so, how do you determine which one is off as opposed to just picking one and adjusting until they’re even? Meaning both would be toe’d in or out? Lol.
hes talking about it could be either tire. because it works on symetry. if you adjust 1 tire you can actually make it where your turning could be less 1 way or the other. thats why you adjust both tire rods

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