Pioneer 500 trailer recommendation.

[PJ1]

I'd have to look again to be sure but I want to say around 1500 lbs.

I sure like how she fits in there. That would put it close to 3000 loaded. Not sure my Ford Edge would be up to it. I think that is the max for it.

 

[Admin]

 

[trigger]

Yeah it would be a bit much for an Edge IMO. Even being a V nose the extra height catches a lot of wind.

 

[rstacsm]

Question? If you back the 500 on to the 5x8 with ramp would the ramp close?

 

[NTCPrezJB]

Question? If you back the 500 on to the 5x8 with ramp would the ramp close?

That's probably going to be trailer specific. Rail height at the front and 7'11" vs 8'1" length of the 5x8 trailer is going to determine that. It's close but I'd guess in most cases a full height rear ramp won't pin shut. If I was headed to pick up a P5 with one I'd at least have a contingency plan for that rear ramp not closing in its normal fashion.

 

[lwhite571]

Question? If you back the 500 on to the 5x8 with ramp would the ramp close?

It will determine what size tires your running, This is an 5 x 8 trailer with 24" tall tires on the P500

 

[Kilroy]

I could not close the ramp on my 5x8 trailer with the bone stock Pioneer 500 loaded. I ended up using a short strap to hold the ramp against the rack to get it home from the dealership. A 10 foot trailer is a better option.

 

[Mortdog]

I never trailered this but I loaded it to see if it would fit. Floe cargo max xrt 8-57

 

[LilRedDonkey]

p500 has'nt arrived yet, but i'm ready when it does. 5'3"x10', 425lbs. aluma.

 

[hallic]

OK, trailer shopping question:
Looking at some from local dealers (just online for now, havn't gone to look in person yet... yay stimulus check!)
Same price, both alum, LED lighting, neither has brakes, not sure if they're setup for easy DIY brake-adding.
Trailer 1: 5'x8', 3500# leaf spring axle, 2x8" wood plank decking, big ass ramp, side rails, tire: 205/75R15, GVWR 2990lbs, payload 2550lbs
Trailer 2: 4.5'x8', 2000# torsion axle, alum deck, fancy bi-folding ramp, no side rails, tire: st175/80r13, GVWR 2000lbs, payload 1650lbs


Leaning heavily to trailer 1, for the hauling capacity, bigger tires, and wood decking. I think I'm sitting at like 52" wide with my current tires, so I should be able to sqeek onto trailer 2.
P5 is what, like 1100lbs or something stock, plus whatever crap I have on it etc. I can see it hitting 1300lbs after I get a big fancy bumper put on, plus spare fuel, trailer spare tire and toolbox etc, wont leave much leftover payload for trailer 2.

Was a truck driver for like 7 years, so more than used to hauling trailers, just nothing this tiny 😅
Not sure of speed ratings or anything yet, havn't heard back from dealer but assuming trailer1's tires are better able to handle highway speeds.

Guess 2 main questions, are aluminum trailers worth the extra $$$ for being lighter/more payload VS steel?
And is the torsion axle worth loosing 900lbs of payload?

Also been looking at some steel trailers with #3500 axles, and they're $400 cheaper, and 400lbs heavier, lol.
Future plans involve a toy hauler camping trailer, so this is just for the p500 for a couple years, plus whatever little hauling jobs I cant fit into the pickup, so I don't want to spend too much $$ on this thing, but I don't want to regret getting trailer 2 if its not worth it.

Edit to add: Both trailer1 and Trailer 2 have 4year limited warranties.
Also just found a 5'x10' steel trailer, LED lights, ramp, wood decking, 3500# Dexter axle with EZ Lube hubs (guessing leaf spring? not sure) GVWR 2990, payload 2170lbs, only 1year warranty, 15" Radial tires on Black powder coated rims!, but $300 cheaper.
So trailer3 is 2feet longer, steel (yay minnesota backyard rust!), saves $300, and looses 400lbs payload.
Still leaning towards Trailer1

 

[NitroxDiver]

OK, trailer shopping question:
Looking at some from local dealers (just online for now, havn't gone to look in person yet... yay stimulus check!)
Same price, both alum, LED lighting, neither has brakes, not sure if they're setup for easy DIY brake-adding.
Trailer 1: 5'x8', 3500# leaf spring axle, 2x8" wood plank decking, big ass ramp, side rails, tire: 205/75R15, GVWR 2990lbs, payload 2550lbs
Trailer 2: 4.5'x8', 2000# torsion axle, alum deck, fancy bi-folding ramp, no side rails, tire: st175/80r13, GVWR 2000lbs, payload 1650lbs


Leaning heavily to trailer 1, for the hauling capacity, bigger tires, and wood decking. I think I'm sitting at like 52" wide with my current tires, so I should be able to sqeek onto trailer 2.
P5 is what, like 1100lbs or something stock, plus whatever crap I have on it etc. I can see it hitting 1300lbs after I get a big fancy bumper put on, plus spare fuel, trailer spare tire and toolbox etc, wont leave much leftover payload for trailer 2.

Was a truck driver for like 7 years, so more than used to hauling trailers, just nothing this tiny 😅
Not sure of speed ratings or anything yet, havn't heard back from dealer but assuming trailer1's tires are better able to handle highway speeds.

Guess 2 main questions, are aluminum trailers worth the extra $$$ for being lighter/more payload VS steel?
And is the torsion axle worth loosing 900lbs of payload?

Also been looking at some steel trailers with #3500 axles, and they're $400 cheaper, and 400lbs heavier, lol.
Future plans involve a toy hauler camping trailer, so this is just for the p500 for a couple years, plus whatever little hauling jobs I cant fit into the pickup, so I don't want to spend too much $$ on this thing, but I don't want to regret getting trailer 2 if its not worth it.

Edit to add: Both trailer1 and Trailer 2 have 4year limited warranties.
Also just found a 5'x10' steel trailer, LED lights, ramp, wood decking, 3500# Dexter axle with EZ Lube hubs (guessing leaf spring? not sure) GVWR 2990, payload 2170lbs, only 1year warranty, 15" Radial tires on Black powder coated rims!, but $300 cheaper.
So trailer3 is 2feet longer, steel (yay minnesota backyard rust!), saves $300, and looses 400lbs payload.
Still leaning towards Trailer1

I have a 5.5’x10’ steel trailer and it works well. While the 8’ trailers are big enough for the P5 I like the 10’ as it gives some room to move the machine front to back and work out the tongue weight. I also like the 15” wheels the best to reduce wear in the wheel bearings. Your trailer #1 has side rails but at only 5’ wide you need to make sure you can open the doors when you load the machine. My 5.5’ trailer the doors hit the rails but I can still squeeze out. If it was only 5’ it would be much more difficult. I don’t have trailer brakes and never missed them on this size load but if your using a smaller tow vehicle maybe it would be good. Good luck in your search.

 

[oldfortyfive]

Is aluminum worth the extra?

Five years ago when I bought mine it was about $350 more than a steel one and worth every penny to me. I haul cross country (1300 miles one way) for hunting. Helps with milage, but more importantly I can pick the trailer up with one hand to move around. Mine is a 5x10 with a 3000lb axle and 15" tires. I also spent the extra for a bi-fold ramp. I really like that. As noted above a 10' trailer lets you adjust the tongue weight as needed.

 

[pappyo]

Guess 2 main questions, are aluminum trailers worth the extra $$$ for being lighter/more payload VS steel?
And is torsion axle worth loosing 900lbs of payload?

Buy "ONCE" Buy Aluminum - ( best Value for the Investment )
5x10 or 12 -- 3k GVW - Torsion Axle
+ Aluminum ------- ( - steel ) - No Painting - lighter Trailer - higher load capacity
+Aluminum Deck - ( - wood ) - Never needs replacing or water proofing
+ Torsion ---------- ( - spring ) Much Better Towing & less bounce
+3000 K ------------ (- 2200 k - marginal - Always find something bigger & heavier to Tow ) need bigger Trailer.
+ Fold Gate - Noticeable Wind Resistance
Ramps add "0" wind resistance ( - easier stolen ) need to lock

Aluminum HOLDS Resale Value - ( few years - Sell - almost for what you Pay Today ) - most likely you WILL Keep.
On 3rd. Aluminum Trailer ( just seem to keep getting smaller OR load bigger ??? Not Sure ) many toys.
12ft. - 5yrs.> - $200 When sold
18ft. - 9yrs.> -$500 When sold

 

[LarryAmboy]

Buy "ONCE" Buy Aluminum - ( best Value for the Investment )
5x10 or 12 -- 3k GVW - Torsion Axle
+ Aluminum ------- ( - steel ) - No Painting - lighter Trailer - higher load capacity
+Aluminum Deck - ( - wood ) - Never needs replacing or water proofing
+ Torsion ---------- ( - spring ) Much Better Towing & less bounce
+3000 K ------------ (- 2200 k - marginal - Always find something bigger & heavier to Tow ) need bigger Trailer.
+ Fold Gate - Noticeable Wind Resistance
Ramps add "0" wind resistance ( - easier stolen ) need to lock

Aluminum HOLDS Resale Value - ( few years - Sell - almost for what you Pay Today ) - most likely you WILL Keep.
On 3rd. Aluminum Trailer ( just seem to keep getting smaller OR load bigger ??? Not Sure ) many toys.
12ft. - 5yrs.> - $200 When sold
18ft. - 9yrs.> -$500 When sold

I have 2 aluminum trailers, 1) 6 x 10 Aluma, fits my P1000-5 with BCF rear rack like a glove 2) 8.5 x 25 EBY dovetail over the tire equipment trailer. I love them and they are worth every penny. I doubt I would ever go back to steel.


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[hallic]

Found a closer dealer for Trailer1, same manufacturer also makes a 5x10 version in aluminum, think I'm gonna go with that.
Was leaning heavily towards aluminum mainly for being in Minnesota, lol. It will be used sometimes in winter, and don't want it rusted out in a year.

Thanks for the input guys.

 

[Kilroy]

You will be better off with the 10 foot trailer. You won't have to worry about if the ramp will close all the way or not like with most 8 foot trailers.

 

[kosh]

5x10 with 2700 GVW works perfectly for me. Back ramp drops right down and I can drive on. Previously had a smaller tilt trailer and it was an adventure loading up.

 

[HP700]

I have a 10' x 5.5 it's a Diamond "C" single axle. Pulls smooth and straight at 75 MPH

How do you like your diamond C. ? Is than a big Tex ? Is it equal or better than a PJ.?

 

[PJ1]

Been thinking all aluminum then I saw this and grabbed it. 6x11 bi fold ramp with tilt. Plastic bucket near indestructible.

 

[Mortdog]

Been thinking all aluminum then I saw this and grabbed it. 6x11 bi fold ramp with tilt. Plastic bucket near indestructible.

Awesome PJ1! The Floe cargomax is a great trailer. I bought a 8ft one back in 2015. It’s been covered in road salt every winter hauling crap. Still looks and functions great. My P520 does fit but , the cg is too far aft for highway towing. The bigger cargomax will be perfect. On another note when mine is dirty I just back it into a boat ramp empty for a quick rinse. It will float if you back in too far.

 

[PJ1]

I like the boat ramp trailer wash idea