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Talon Red Talon R Ordered on Saturday

Discussion in 'General Talon 1000 Discussion' started by hondabob, Jan 6, 2019.

  1. Dragon21

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    Horsepower at the motor and at the wheels are 2 different things. Would love to see a dyno of the talon and XP1000 to see what they make at the wheels.
     
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    YEA! It's a Smitty mobile!
     
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    I totally agree with you CP.
    Something isn't quite right with the Talons hp rating look how the Pioneer stacks up to Poorlarse General the General with a few extra ponies runs a little better then the Pioneer just like you would expect then there is the Talon it has a few less horse power then a RZR and it is whipping up on it? something smells funny but I LIKE IT!!!

    Maybe Honda is sand bagging because they now Polaris will bump up there horse power just to keep there hp king status?
     
  6. Dragon21

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    If your wondering how the talon stacks up... i think this says something. This is from some of the drag race videos going around.

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    This is what I'm thinking..... OH well... I'm still waiting on seat time.. can't wait.
     
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    Torque is pretty high in the Honda’s twins... I can’t wait to see.
     
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    I think it’s accurate, DCT is more efficient than CVT. Honda’s are known for torque compared to Yam, Canned Am and Popo. Good delivery of Torque gets you moving and keeps you moving. How a 8000lb diesel 3500 can move 30000+ lbs and keep it moving. HP isn’t all that matters.
     
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    And we never hear torque numbers being discussed.. always HP.. Hmmmmm
     
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    I know that how a CVT works it allows a lower power motor to bring the most power at the lowest speed, BUT the motor has to rev to its power range first. CVT is most efficient use of MAXIMUM power output for a motor. Therefore motor life is shorter and the inherent weakness in the CVT is the belt since it is exposed to the outside environment.

    The DCT has the more efficient transfer of the available power at any given speed but revs can’t change like a CVT can do you have to be in the correct gear. DCT is more efficient use of AVAILABLE power output for a motor. Motor life is maximized. Reliability/Life of DCT should be greater than a true manual but less than a true auto and efficiency is better than both.

    Different technologies have different uses/strengths. For what the Pioneer 1000/Talon is DESIGNED....read that carefully again CP....DESIGNED.... to do the DCT seems like it is the better technology. The way I ride my 68” Wide Pioneer 1000 I think I’ll be more than happy with a fairly stock Talon R.

    Can’t argue in detail I don’t know enough about the actual operation of a Polaris CVT to discuss it in depth. Snuff is probably the most knowledgeable person across the brands outside of a career powersports tech I know.
     
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    Alba is Dynoing a talon today.


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    Plumber32 I4wd, never heard of her!
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    Theres alot more to drag racing than just h.p. weight,traction, gears, and on and on. I've watched a ton of videos of hellcats and demons getting beat in the 1/4 by lesser h.p. cars.
     
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    ohanacreek My EcoBoost has I4WD
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    I saw that I'm curious just for curiosities sake how they stack up at the rear wheels.
     
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    Plumber32 I4wd, never heard of her!
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    85 at the wheels is the outcome
     
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    Aight they said they were going to compare to the YXZ and 1000XP
     
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