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If it is that much of a hassle I would never do it . It looked like it could be a two min job or so then maybe. I guess I really need a Lexus 470 then I would be set :)
 
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Or hey new jeep rubicons just flip a switch lol
 
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I think I've seen somewhere maybe the other site where someone made a cable operated disconnect for the P500. As noted by most here slow riding rough terrain light loads disconnect is nice, I notice smoother ride. Fast gravel roads and loaded I prefer it hooked up, way smoother easier controlled drifts...

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Unhooked mine last week. I've been out twice since then. It is a new machine. Much better ride. And it didn't feel unstable ever. Even at high speeds. So happy I did this
 
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I think I am going to unhook mine this weekend and report back I have some good test spots where I almost rolled the p500 do to the rear tire catching a vine on high side of steep hill I think disconnecting will help with this
 
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I think I am going to unhook mine this weekend and report back I have some good test spots where I almost rolled the p500 do to the rear tire catching a vine on high side of steep hill I think disconnecting will help with this
If you have opportunity, do some fast driving on curvy gravel/forest roads so you can report the effects of the mod on that.
 
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If you have opportunity, do some fast driving on curvy gravel/forest roads so you can report the effects of the mod on that.
Good point I will try that. Some of the trails I ride will be a good test I'll make a point to do that.
 
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Good point I will try that. Some of the trails I ride will be a good test I'll make a point to do that.
Great, it will help me decide whether or not to disconnect mine. Much of the riding we do is in a 76,000 acre forest with miles and miles of gravel roads that we have to ride on to get to the various trails that we take. And we usually take those roads at high speed. So thanks for checking that.
 
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I carry a lot of weight when we go riding and I push the speed of the thing with it off I could feel the rear dipping into turns BUT for slower riding rough rocky rutty trails I think is rides a lot better with it disconnected
What exactly does the sway bar do?
 
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I think I am going to unhook mine this weekend and report back I have some good test spots where I almost rolled the p500 do to the rear tire catching a vine on high side of steep hill I think disconnecting will help with this
Looking forward to your findings especially on the off camber hillsides and see if it remains stable at angles. That is what keep me from unhooking mine because while doing a lot of rock riding there are a lot of fairly steep hillsides we encounter.
 
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Looking forward to your findings especially on the off camber hillsides and see if it remains stable at angles. That is what keep me from unhooking mine because while doing a lot of rock riding there are a lot of fairly steep hillsides we encounter.
Ok I ran a run with the swaybar went to the hill with the vine that I almost rolled it on. Stopped on the vine the front wheel was barely touching the ground and with 1 finger I could tilt it 3-4 inches off the ground. With the sway bar detached and ziptied up same spot I stopped on the vine felt slightly less tippy the front tire was touching the ground (not barely like before) and it took a few fingers to get the tire 3-4 inches off the ground. Driving back the fast trails full speed 40-41 weaving between brush dips and rocks (tight trail) you could feel the difference with it disconnected it 'swayed' or dipped more nothing scary. I was weaving back and forth if I added another 10-15 mph and tried that I think the bar would be a big help and would clearly be needed. I could not drive any faster as that is all the faster it goes. If the trail was more open than barely fitting my P500 I would not need to weave like that and on the open road at full speed it felt fine. If I drove crazy like that on those kind of trails all the time I would reconnect it. With it disconnected the smoother ride and I feel better stability on rocks and inclines I am keeping mine off.
 
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I don't have great pics and I could take a pic of myself tilting the buggy but this is steep and you could very easily push it over.

This is before swaybar disconnected.
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This is after swaybar disconnected front wheel is more on the ground and still easily to push over but not very easy. When I got back it the first time just sitting in the drivers seat ( downhill side) you could feel the front wheel pick off the ground

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I don't have great pics and I could take a pic of myself tilting the buggy but this is steep and you could very easily push it over.

This is before swaybar disconnected.View attachment 10933

This is after swaybar disconnected front wheel is more on the ground and still easily to push over but not very easy. When I got back it the first time just sitting in the drivers seat ( downhill side) you could feel the front wheel pick off the ground

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Thanks for the detailed report and pictures. After reading your post and seeing the pictures I think I will disconnect mine and see how it works for me. With the disconnect one just needs to keep that in mind when traversing a steep hillside. We ride so many rocky areas the smoother ride would be a plus allowing the Independent suspension to do it's job.
 
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Thanks for the detailed report and pictures. After reading your post and seeing the pictures I think I will disconnect mine and see how it works for me. With the disconnect one just needs to keep that in mind when traversing a steep hillside. We ride so many rocky areas the smoother ride would be a plus allowing the Independent suspension to do it's job.
Honestly it is more stable in the hills. The only negative is at 40mph in turns. But still seems fine. It actually surprises me the folks that say they laid them over. Been in some hairy spots and go fast. But it's fine. I need more speed and power. May upgrade to 1000. We hit a lot of dirt road. And I'm always in back
 
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Honestly it is more stable in the hills. The only negative is at 40mph in turns. But still seems fine. It actually surprises me the folks that say they laid them over. Been in some hairy spots and go fast. But it's fine. I need more speed and power. May upgrade to 1000. We hit a lot of dirt road. And I'm always in back
Did you adjust the rear shocks or just leave them as they were?
 
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I have them as soft as they can go
Thanks for the detailed report and pictures. After reading your post and seeing the pictures I think I will disconnect mine and see how it works for me. With the disconnect one just needs to keep that in mind when traversing a steep hillside. We ride so many rocky areas the smoother ride would be a plus allowing the Independent suspension to do it's job.
No problem.

It is very easy to remove I used I think a 13mm socket loosened the bolt. It was very tight and loosed most of the way with my fingers. Pulled out the bolt. The attachment arm swings up and I zip tied it. The other side the same and then swung the swaybar up a bit and zip tied. Took maybe 4-5 min. I also tightened the bolts back into the attachment arms so I don't need to look for them later. I rode it a bit more after uploading and writing about it and I agree more stable on hills.
 
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Took a quick ride last night to try the sway bar removal mod. All I can say is wow, and it won't be going back in. Had that same stupid grin from ear to ear like the day I drove home with it :) I really put it through some corners on gravel roads on the high end, it flexes a bit but in the end I liked how much better the ride felt. The improved ride will be much easier on my photography equipment. Here's a shot I got last night.
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