Top speed...Foreman vs. Pioneer 500.

[rlutech]

So what's different about the engine/transmission in a Foreman vs. Pioneer 500? Why is the top speed on newer Foreman more than on a P5? Thought they used the same drivetrain?

 

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[Hondasxs]

Hi,
Thought we all say they have the "same drive-train" doesn't exactly mean they are 100% the same.
Without diging into every single gear. I know that the rear differentials is the most import factor when it comes to this.

The Foreman rear has 20p - 41r teeth per rotation.
The P5 rear has 21p - 51r teeth per rotation.
Someone else will have to figure up the math on that.

But it more less equals out to this:
The Foreman will be faster with less low end power vs the P5.
The P5 will be slower yet more powerful then the foreman because of the lower gear ratio.

If you were to swap the rear ends they most likely would be about the same.
Hope that answers your question.

 

[rlutech]

Okay, didn't know the rear end ratios were different.

 

[JACKAL]

Hi,
Thought we all say they have the "same drive-train" doesn't exactly mean they are 100% the same.
Without diging into every single gear. I know that the rear differentials is the most import factor when it comes to this.

The Foreman rear has 20p - 41r teeth per rotation.
The P5 rear has 21p - 51r teeth per rotation.
Someone else will have to figure up the math on that.

But it more less equals out to this:
The Foreman will be faster with less low end power vs the P5.
The P5 will be slower yet more powerful then the foreman because of the lower gear ratio.

If you were to swap the rear ends they most likely would be about the same.
Hope that answers your question.

By the numbers 41 / 51 = .804 so the final drive is 20% lower on the P500 vs. the Foreman. Rev limiters being the same if the Foreman goes 50 mph the Pioneer would top out at 40 mph if everything else was mechanically equal.

 

[Moose308]

By the numbers 41 / 51 = .804 so the final drive is 20% lower on the P500 vs. the Foreman. Rev limiters being the same if the Foreman goes 50 mph the Pioneer would top out at 40 mph if everything else was mechanically equal.

That's correct speed.I own both.

 

[mrjeff42]

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[jak9922]

lower ratio to gain torque to make up for the weight difference