ToyHauler from Enclosed Trailer

[ohanacreek]

I've been looking for a toyhauler, thing I keep running into is the crazy high price and the door is Not quite large enough for my lifted Pioneer.

I can get a brand new 8.5x26 enclosed trailer with a slanted V nose, power, AC with heat, leveling jacks, 7.5' ramp door and side door for $7500. Was thinking I could use this in the meantime and add a basic interior, nothing fancy something I can cleanse easily, we stay in hotels when we travel. This is a toy hauler, not a Prevost luxury motorcoach.

Any thoughts or has anyone done this?

 

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[scott]

That would work for me I know. I would build a bed in the front and put a little fridge in there. And a few other things. I would sleep in it. AC and heat shoot yea.


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[ohanacreek]

Want to make it so that in a few years it can sleep, feed and bathe a family of 4.

 

[hydrantman]

Look into a company called Livin Lite.

 

[RunningBear]

If you plan to use the heat/air and eventually sleep in it, I'd either go ahead and get insulation added from the factory, or make sure it's easy to add later. Same with a roof vent.

Here is where I bought mine a few years ago (and it's in your neck of the woods) - http://www.metrotrailer.net/arising-ind ... ailer.html Click on the "Pricing" link and you'll see the pricing for all the individual options, etc. Some options are quite cheap to add during manufacture. These guys were great to deal with!

The one I ordered/bought was 8.5 x 20 and included a v-nose, extra ground clearance, 15" radial trailer tires, a spare with mount, plenty of e-track (two strips on each wall and 2 strips on the floor, all the full length of the trailer and recessed), extra height, a roof vent with fan, extra interior lights with wall switches, two side vents that can be opened while moving, plywood interior sides, luan ceiling, insulation in the ceiling, 10,000 lb load capacity (two 5200 lb rubber torsion axles), diamond plate stone guard on front, all LED lights, pre-wired and braced/framed for AC/Heat if I want to add it later, and a flat floor (no beaver tail),

I bought this in 2011 and the cost was $6,650. At the time, this was the best overall deal I could find, and it was easy to get exactly what I wanted. I have been super happy with the trailer. In particular, the e-track is fantastic. It makes the trailer so much more usable. It's expensive, but worth it. The added ground clearance was also a great decision. If you get to looking, many enclosed trailers are really low. I was afraid I'd tear it up in rougher places, so the extra clearance has been great and no issue at all with loading anything. The big loading ramp makes it easy. The extra interior height is also a big plus. If I did it over, I'd go even taller.

Of course, the Pioneer is tall! It fits right now, but if I add a lift kit, I'm not sure it will. It may depend on how big of a guy I can get to hang off the back while I load and unload!

I've slept/camped in mine a few times. I've used camp mattresses, cots, etc. for several of us sleeping in it at one time. It works well!

Good luck with your trailer search. There are plenty out there to choose from!

 

[lee]

I have an older toy hauler, it’s pushing 17 years old (that is like 80 in trailer years).
It’s a 26 foot weekend Warrior with the front bath arrangement – bath and sink / stove are pushed to the front to maximize hauling capacity.
For me it has worked well, if I had tried to build something it would still be half finished.
Considering all the stuff it has moved, trips with the family and yearly week at the county fair this was a smart move for my situation.

On the down side the ‘stick built’ type trailers are a maintenance headache, you really have to stay on top of them to keep the water out.
Also it is heavy, when I got it the trailer was almost max towing weight of the van I had to pull it.
Later I got a diesel truck and the weight was less of an issue but the tow vehicle was a large investment.
I have the style with the bunk in the rear, the roof slopes up towards the back.
That creates a large parachute effect when towing, fuel mileage is high single digits with the Duramax.

If I were to do it again, now, I would look at the VRV toy haulers.
VRV is making a basic trailer to live in, not a rolling palace.
I plan to get dirty and track mud but I want to be able to clean up and keep warm (or cool but after last weekend the warm is more on my mind).
The VRV has a constant height roof so less frontal area and it is made of aluminum to keep the weight down.

On the down side, I just don’t have the money to run out and get another toy hauler.
The Weekend warrior cost about the same as a new Civic (at that time) when I got it.
Now a replacement would be in the new diesel truck range.

I also have a 17’ V-nose enclosed trailer, this is what I brought last weekend to the Hondasxs ride.
I have all sorts of ideas for how to make it a ‘toy hauler lite’, the concept being to use my camping gear to make it livable.
Things like a folding camp table, lawn chairs for furniture, use the Colman stove to cook on and the Mr Heater Buddy to keep warm.
Mr Heater is not my buddy, I never woke up warm last weekend.
The small propane bottles ran out after ½ the night so I had to wake up and replace them, then in the morning the CO shut off would not let it start.
If you go the enclosed trailer route definitely get the A/C and built in heater.

 

[ohanacreek]

If you plan to use the heat/air and eventually sleep in it, I'd either go ahead and get insulation added from the factory, or make sure it's easy to add later. Same with a roof vent.

Here is where I bought mine a few years ago (and it's in your neck of the woods) - http://www.metrotrailer.net/arising-ind ... ailer.html Click on the "Pricing" link and you'll see the pricing for all the individual options, etc. Some options are quite cheap to add during manufacture. These guys were great to deal with!

The one I ordered/bought was 8.5 x 20 and included a v-nose, extra ground clearance, 15" radial trailer tires, a spare with mount, plenty of e-track (two strips on each wall and 2 strips on the floor, all the full length of the trailer and recessed), extra height, a roof vent with fan, extra interior lights with wall switches, two side vents that can be opened while moving, plywood interior sides, luan ceiling, insulation in the ceiling, 10,000 lb load capacity (two 5200 lb rubber torsion axles), diamond plate stone guard on front, all LED lights, pre-wired and braced/framed for AC/Heat if I want to add it later, and a flat floor (no beaver tail),

I bought this in 2011 and the cost was $6,650. At the time, this was the best overall deal I could find, and it was easy to get exactly what I wanted. I have been super happy with the trailer. In particular, the e-track is fantastic. It makes the trailer so much more usable. It's expensive, but worth it. The added ground clearance was also a great decision. If you get to looking, many enclosed trailers are really low. I was afraid I'd tear it up in rougher places, so the extra clearance has been great and no issue at all with loading anything. The big loading ramp makes it easy. The extra interior height is also a big plus. If I did it over, I'd go even taller.

Of course, the Pioneer is tall! It fits right now, but if I add a lift kit, I'm not sure it will. It may depend on how big of a guy I can get to hang off the back while I load and unload!

I've slept/camped in mine a few times. I've used camp mattresses, cots, etc. for several of us sleeping in it at one time. It works well!

Good luck with your trailer search. There are plenty out there to choose from!

I am pretty much doing all of that but had not thought about the etrack thats a great idea.
Ground clearance was a requirement since I am putting grey and blackwater tanks on it. Probably put some UHMW under them for protection!

To get mine in and out of a "7 foot" garage door I have to hang off the back and let my wife drive it out. Annoying to the point I raised the ceiling in the garage of our new house to accommodate an 8 foot door. I don't think I'll be adding 12" of lift anytime soon. Although considering ordering true 28's since my 27's are actually 26" tall.

With the extra height in the trailer itself I might be able to install a raised bathroom and not have the tanks under the trailer.

I have an older toy hauler, it’s pushing 17 years old (that is like 80 in trailer years).
It’s a 26 foot weekend Warrior with the front bath arrangement – bath and sink / stove are pushed to the front to maximize hauling capacity.
For me it has worked well, if I had tried to build something it would still be half finished.
Considering all the stuff it has moved, trips with the family and yearly week at the county fair this was a smart move for my situation.

On the down side the ‘stick built’ type trailers are a maintenance headache, you really have to stay on top of them to keep the water out.
Also it is heavy, when I got it the trailer was almost max towing weight of the van I had to pull it.
Later I got a diesel truck and the weight was less of an issue but the tow vehicle was a large investment.
I have the style with the bunk in the rear, the roof slopes up towards the back.
That creates a large parachute effect when towing, fuel mileage is high single digits with the Duramax.

If I were to do it again, now, I would look at the VRV toy haulers.
VRV is making a basic trailer to live in, not a rolling palace.
I plan to get dirty and track mud but I want to be able to clean up and keep warm (or cool but after last weekend the warm is more on my mind).
The VRV has a constant height roof so less frontal area and it is made of aluminum to keep the weight down.

On the down side, I just don’t have the money to run out and get another toy hauler.
The Weekend warrior cost about the same as a new Civic (at that time) when I got it.
Now a replacement would be in the new diesel truck range.

I also have a 17’ V-nose enclosed trailer, this is what I brought last weekend to the Hondasxs ride.
I have all sorts of ideas for how to make it a ‘toy hauler lite’, the concept being to use my camping gear to make it livable.
Things like a folding camp table, lawn chairs for furniture, use the Colman stove to cook on and the Mr Heater Buddy to keep warm.
Mr Heater is not my buddy, I never woke up warm last weekend.
The small propane bottles ran out after ½ the night so I had to wake up and replace them, then in the morning the CO shut off would not let it start.
If you go the enclosed trailer route definitely get the A/C and built in heater.

I'll take a look at those, thanks for the recommendation when you type "toy hauler" into the Google. You get the major names and are overwhelmed with options, none of which seem to be what Im looking for. They are all >40k and 5th wheel with 26' living space and 12' cargo. I have always had the philosophy that if I can't find what I want, build what I want.

How you are using it is EXACTLY how I want to use it, sometimes as just a cargo trailer. Although a few amenities like a mini cooking area and a bathroom with shower would be REAL nice! I am aiming to keep the loaded weight <= 8000lbs so between a 1800lb SxS and a 3600lb base trailer I have 2600lbs left. I was looking at a slanted V nose to help with wind resistance and insulated walls to help with livability.

A bunk setup of some sort, a place to store clothes/toiletries, then a place to keep tools would be all I needed.

Definitely use the cargo area with camp table and chairs for everything else.

 

[scott]

What about them pop up campers toy haulers. I have looked into them myself. It's on a open trailer so the pioneer will fit without any issues.


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[ohanacreek]

What about them pop up campers toy haulers. I have looked into them myself. It's on a open trailer so the pioneer will fit without any issues.


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Pop ups are a Maintence nightmare and I wanted the cargo capability.

Thought about getting a 18 or 20' trailer and putting the bath and cooking area on the very front wall, having one bed drop from ceiling or fold from side and having this as a 2nd bedroom.

http://www.campingworld.com/shopping/it ... dard/29106

 

[Cloud 9 Rider]

If you're still looking at the camper/toy hauler option rvingplanet.com shows the floorplans of every camper there is. Eclipse Attitude models and a Pacific Coachworks makes some awesome looking campers for what you're talking about. http://www.rvingplanet.com/finder/toy-h ... -trailers/


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[ohanacreek]

Thanks I'll take a look at those floor plans

 

[bobbyhill]

I've been looking for a toyhauler, thing I keep running into is the crazy high price and the door is Not quite large enough for my lifted Pioneer.

I can get a brand new 8.5x26 enclosed trailer with a slanted V nose, power, AC with heat, leveling jacks, 7.5' ramp door and side door for $7500. Was thinking I could use this in the meantime and add a basic interior, nothing fancy something I can cleanse easily, we stay in hotels when we travel. This is a toy hauler, not a Prevost luxury motorcoach.

Any thoughts or has anyone done this?

i was looking at Dune Sport custom toyhaulers before i decided to just buy a motor home and tow my enclosed trailer i have now. they build custom from the ground up and your options can keep the price down.