Transmission Problems

[Bobsagetisgod]

Got stuck in the creek today, had a surprise patch of silt suck me in. Anyways the water got up to the seat on the driver side. Once I finally got pulled out, I believe it's my 3 and 5 gears hesitate and rev really high when upshifting to those gears. I'm not all to familiar with this unit, but I remember back with the Suzuki king quad, when we sank them, we'd flip them to drain them, change the oil, and be on our way. I also seem to remember a water drain plug on that four wheeler.

Like I said, I'm not too familiar with this problem, so I drained all the oil, didn't jump out as milky, but I'm hoping for an easy fix with fresh fluids. Anything else I can try? If the clutches are torched, that's fine, I'll take it in, but if it's something easy (like my king quad was), I'll just do what I have to at home. Thanks.


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[wyodlr]

If the water got up to the seat you will have water in the gas tank and sub tranny if the lines aren't extended, check the air filter and ducting to it to make sure you got no water in it. If it shows any water in it Honda will not cover it

 

[JTW]

If they're slipping in 3&5 reverse and first should be also.. what range and gear were you in when you got stuck? Did you try and drive out first? Sounds like the clutches are toast...

 

[Bobsagetisgod]

If the water got up to the seat you will have water in the gas tank and sub tranny if the lines aren't extended, check the air filter and ducting to it to make sure you got no water in it. If it shows any water in it Honda will not cover it

I was pretty much at a 45* angle to the driver side. Only the driver side got that deep. So I believe the gas tank and air ducting should be fine. I'm not sure about the sun transmission.

If they're slipping in 3&5 reverse and first should be also.. what range and gear were you in when you got stuck? Did you try and drive out first? Sounds like the clutches are toast...

That's what I'm figuring. I tried driving out both in low and high. Forward and reverse.



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[zin01]

I don't have any person experience with this but the consensus seems to be that if the oil was very brown you could have smoked the clutch. If/when I'm stuck I go to Low first thing the gears are a little to tall on these things and you need low to try to turn the tires in thick mud. Anyway how did the oil look?


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[CumminsPusher]

Like said above I've got a feeling your clutches are spent. Drain all fluids and fill back up see where you're at. Also check air filter and air tube leading to it

 

[Bobsagetisgod]

I don't have any person experience with this but the consensus seems to be that if the oil was very brown you could have smoked the clutch. If/when I'm stuck I go to Low first thing the gears are a little to tall on these things and you need low to try to turn the tires in thick mud. Anyway how did the oil look?


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The oil looked pretty standard as far "brown-ness," I'm going to pull the pans I drained it into and inspect it under some light after work. It didn't smell burnt or anything though.

Like said above I've got a feeling your clutches are spent. Drain all fluids and fill back up see where you're at. Also check air filter and air tube leading to it

10-4 I'll check the air box this afternoon.


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[Bobsagetisgod]

Does the sub trans use the same oil as the rest of the engine/transmission? Or is that isolated from everything else? I see a separate fill for that under the seat


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[ohanacreek]

Does the sub trans use the same oil as the rest of the engine/transmission? Or is that isolated from everything else? I see a separate fill for that under the seat


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I believe so, I'm nearly positive it does.

@CumminsPusher and @snuffnwhiskey y'all've had it apart.

 

[CumminsPusher]

I believe so, I'm nearly positive it does.

@CumminsPusher and @snuffnwhiskey y'all've had it apart.

Yes Gn4

 

[snuffnwhisky]

Pretty sure it's isolated from engine oil. Uses the same grade oil though.

 

[Bobsagetisgod]

Ok, I'm not going to touch that, my issue isn't the transfer case, it's the clutches. So as long as it's self contained in regards to its oil.

I'm a quart short so I'm at a stand still right now. The drained oil was brown, but not overly brown. It didn't smell burnt, and there was no clutch material to be found. We'll see. I still think it's trashed, but there's always a chance.


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[pct]

Let your old oil set in the pan for a while then pour it into another pan when you get close to the bottom of the pan is when you will start seeing clutch material in the oil it will look like sludge if there is a lot take it to your dealer

 

[Bobsagetisgod]

A little update, the R,1,3,5 clutch pack was torched. Repaired and back on the trail.


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[Jimmy-AZ]

A little update, the R,1,3,5 clutch pack was torched. Repaired and back on the trail.


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Good news Bob, did you do the fix yourself? If so, we would like details like which plates were torched, any gear mashing, bearing or shaft replcements etc.

 

[Bobsagetisgod]

Good news Bob, did you do the fix yourself? If so, we would like details like which plates were torched, any gear mashing, bearing or shaft replcements etc.

No sir, it ended up be approved for warranty replacement at the purchasing dealer. My buddy picked it up for me so I didn't get to talk to the guy about anything either.

Side note, the service manager told me that Honda is working on a fix for the clutch issue that should be available within a couple months. What that fix is, he didn't know.


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[pct]

Glad you are up and running again