P1000 2016 Honda Pioneer-1000 Grinding Noise

[dfrasier88]

Hello,

I took my Pioneer out for a ride yesterday on some trails and had it in 4 wheel drive, 4-high. I got into a spot where I had to back up into a small ditch and turn around, as I was going forward climbing out of this small ditch I heard an awful grinding sound and the whole machine vibrated during this too. This only occurred when the extra torque was needed to move the machine, whether it be up a hill or over a larger log, and happened a few other times on this ride.

This machine has less than 1000 miles and I'm really frustrated about this, considering how few miles it has. We did purchase it used with about 770 miles on it. I do assume there will need to be a cable adjustment as whenever we shift it into 4-low there is a similar grinding noise, which is very frustrating. It also seems to shift very violently to me, and also doesn't seem to shift correctly when going down a large hill. It seems to just stay in the low gear (which may be normal)

I'm just looking for some answers here. I did bring it to the shop a few months ago and asked them to look everything over, and they did and claimed everything was good but I'm guessing they didn't really go wild looking at the transmission or drive shaft etc, because at the time I hadn't ridden it enough to detect any issue.

Any help on this is TRULY appreciated. Thank you guys!

 

[WagginTail]

Try this. My 2018 made some pops and clunks when I tried to put it in 4wd one time. I did these adjustments on the front diff and no issues since

 

[WagginTail]

Also check out this video to adjust the cable going to the rear diff

P1000 - Rear Differential Adjustment

I have seen a lot of posts about Pioneer's making a clanking/banging sound when shifting from 2WD to Turf Mode. I have made a video detailing how to fix this and what causes that. Please like and subscribe and I hope this helps some of you!

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[dfrasier88]

Also check out this video to adjust the cable going to the rear diff

P1000 - Rear Differential Adjustment

I have seen a lot of posts about Pioneer's making a clanking/banging sound when shifting from 2WD to Turf Mode. I have made a video detailing how to fix this and what causes that. Please like and subscribe and I hope this helps some of you!

hondasxs.com

Do you think this could also explain the grinding noise that came up when it needed torque to go up a hill?

 

[WagginTail]

Do you think this could also explain the grinding noise that came up when it needed torque to go up a hill?

It could be. Start with those cable adjustments since that's something easy to check. Also when you're in a tight spot like going through a ditch or up a steep hill or over a log, put it in low range. This will help to save your clutches.

Another thing is be sure you have the updated clutch cover. The 2016 year model had issues with that. You can search on this site to find a picture of what the updated cover looks like.

 

[Remington]

Try this. My 2018 made some pops and clunks when I tried to put it in 4wd one time. I did these adjustments on the front diff and no issues since
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Anything from Snuff is mint👌🏼

 

[P1K5Dave]

Check the condition of your front axles. Grab the axle near each CV joint and see if it moves around when you wiggle it.

I'm kind of thinking you may have a bad CV in the front.

 

[dfrasier88]

Check the condition of your front axles. Grab the axle near each CV joint and see if it moves around when you wiggle it.

I'm kind of thinking you may have a bad CV in the front.

Thanks for the reply.

Would a CV joint only grind when needed torque for getting up a hill? Or does that mean its only "partially" bad, and not fully broken yet?

 

[Remington]

Thanks for the reply.

Would a CV joint only grind when needed torque for getting up a hill? Or does that mean its only "partially" bad, and not fully broken yet?

Shouldn't do that ever! If your grinding, popping or hearing anything other than absolutely nothing from an axel, its bad and time to replace. There is no such thing as “Partially bad” with an axel.

 

[P1K5Dave]

Thanks for the reply.

Would a CV joint only grind when needed torque for getting up a hill? Or does that mean its only "partially" bad, and not fully broken yet?

If it's making noise, it's gone bad. But it's common for them to not make any noise when they're not under load (or not being driven,) especially when they first start going bad.

My RR is starting to go. It only makes noise in reverse or on a sharp turn. It'll be changed soon.

 

[P1K5Dave]

I had a front one that I didn't know was bad until I put it in 4 HI, then I heard it.

I run around in turf most of the time.

 

[dfrasier88]

Check the condition of your front axles. Grab the axle near each CV joint and see if it moves around when you wiggle it.

I'm kind of thinking you may have a bad CV in the front.

Doesn't move at all. Would it need to be in 4 wheel drive to be loose or would it be loose regardless? I checked both CV's in the front and they're super tight but it was in 2WD when I checked.

 

[P1K5Dave]

It doesn't need to be in 4. It still could be a CV, but less likely since they feel solid. They make a bit more of a clicking / thunking sound when they start to fail, not so much grinding.

 

[dfrasier88]

It doesn't need to be in 4. It still could be a CV, but less likely since they feel solid. They make a bit more of a clicking / thunking sound when they start to fail, not so much grinding.

This was indeed a clicking, grinding noise. Like a violent clicking/grinding noise that vibrated the whole machine.

 

[Remington]

Doesn't move at all. Would it need to be in 4 wheel drive to be loose or would it be loose regardless? I checked both CV's in the front and they're super tight but it was in 2WD when I checked.

You need someone to drive it slowly and you walking along side of it getting close to the diff area to pinpoint your issue. Just driving it inside to hear is like trying to hear what your wife is telling you when shes in the other room! 🥳

 

[john790]

That was your sub trans not engaged.