What size Winch for a Pioneer 500?

[Hondasxs]

Being a smaller machine, what size winch would be a good for the Pioneer 500?
Do you think a 2500 lb would be enough?

Any ideas.

 

[Admin]

 

[ohanacreek]

3500 ... why be undersized when for a few bucks more you have a upper layer pull ratting to get you out.

 

[Martin]

Don't go with anything less than 4000Pds. I have winter tracks (Camoplast T4S) and my 3K winch did not pull me out of the snow I was in. I will have it replaced by a 4 or a 4.5 K depending on what fit in the hole under the bumper. I can't install it on top because of my canoe Rack.

 

[JCart]

Don't go with anything less than 4000Pds. I have winter tracks (Camoplast T4S) and my 3K winch did not pull me out of the snow I was in. I will have it replaced by a 4 or a 4.5 K depending on what fit in the hole under the bumper. I can't install it on top because of my canoe Rack.

Good to know Martin, when I bought mine I went with a Superwinch Terra 3500 series and added synthetic line this last winter. I keep a snatch block in my gear along with 20' 1" wide tow strap, this increases the tugging by nearly double. I never considered trax at the time though hmmm, guess when I get them I may have to redo the winch or toss in an extra snatch block...

jrc

 

[solrus]

I have 4500 lbs and recently , had real challenge to tackle with it , not just trying to pull myself from a ditch , but I pulled 6500 lbs F150 double cab out of snow, by driving and pulling winch same time.

this is my post P500 - Shoulder Elk hunt adventures 2016

 

[sporttrac4x4]

3500. Would work

 

[Montecresto]

3,000 is sufficient for anything one needs to do. It's a 1,000 pound machine, it wasn't built for towing trucks around and driving the P-5 while pulling with the winch voids warranty and can damage the winch just as securing your machine to a trailer with the winch can cause damage.

 

[Kirkl]

I just went with a superwinch 2500 since they were on sale at cabelas and i got it for $63 bucks after i used cabelas points. I dont ride in mud and that kinda stuff where I really need a winch. Its there for peace of mind. Only time i used my winch on my quad was to hang elk over the meat pole.

 

[solrus]

3,000 is sufficient for anything one needs to do. It's a 1,000 pound machine, it wasn't built for towing trucks around and driving the P-5 while pulling with the winch voids warranty and can damage the winch just as securing your machine to a trailer with the winch can cause damage.

very true, I just happen to try it over the limit and it worked.

 

[bigbore]

Being a smaller machine, what size winch would be a good for the Pioneer 500?
Do you think a 2500 lb would be enough?

Any ideas.

I went with the SW Terra 4500. The specs looked identical to the 3500, the gear ratio and a .25 cable being the only difference. For the same weight and $25, I would rather be over-winched than under-winched.

 

[Martin]

3,000 is sufficient for anything one needs to do. It's a 1,000 pound machine, it wasn't built for towing trucks around and driving the P-5 while pulling with the winch voids warranty and can damage the winch just as securing your machine to a trailer with the winch can cause damage.

I have a Warn 3000 and it does not have sufficient power to pull my P5 (with winter tracks on) out of the snow. Got stuck a couple of times. Don`t forget that 3000 pds is for a bare roller, as you add layer of cable you lose a lot of power. For each layer of cable on the spool, you lose like 350 pds of force so by the 4th layer, you are down less than 1800 pds.... so 1100 for the P5, about 300 Pds for the tracks plus the what I call suction force, you are way past the capacity of the winch.

This is my experience with the 3000..... A winch is always strong enough until you need it.... You then realise that it is not.... Upgrading mine to a 4500 for sure.

 

[Montecresto]

I have a Warn 3000 and it does not have sufficient power to pull my P5 (with winter tracks on) out of the snow. Got stuck a couple of times. Don`t forget that 3000 pds is for a bare roller, as you add layer of cable you lose a lot of power. For each layer of cable on the spool, you lose like 350 pds of force so by the 4th layer, you are down less than 1800 pds.... so 1100 for the P5, about 300 Pds for the tracks plus the what I call suction force, you are way past the capacity of the winch.

This is my experience with the 3000..... A winch is always strong enough until you need it.... You then realise that it is not.... Upgrading mine to a 4500 for sure.

With tracks on, in the deep snow!! Well, there are exceptions to the rule. The vast majority of us P-5 owners are going to be fine with 3000.

 

[Moose308]

Terra 3500

 

[solrus]

Terra 4500 + blocks

 

[Tflynn]

I always figured if your winch had a rating two times the weight of the vehicle you should be ok (2000 lb. vehicle gets a 4000 lb. winch). So if a p500 is 1100 lbs. plus weight if gear and rider let's say 1500 lbs. you should have a 3000 lb. winch. BUT I always get the next one up from the one I "need" according to the 2x formula because the price difference is usually not much and I always carry a snatch block too.

 

[sthomp54]

I have a 3000 and it seems sufficient. I'll admit I havent used it much but always bring a snatch block to double the strength. I mean if you need 4500lbs for a P500 does that mean you need 9000lbs for a P1000, it is almost double to weight. At some point it becomes overkill and the extra weight and ability to damage the frame comes into play.

 

[Montecresto]

I have a 3000 and it seems sufficient. I'll admit I havent used it much but always bring a snatch block to double the strength. I mean if you need 4500lbs for a P500 does that mean you need 9000lbs for a P1000, it is almost double to weight. At some point it becomes overkill and the extra weight and ability to damage the frame comes into play.

That!

 

[Talen]

Lots of good input on here. As for me, I have superwinch 3000. Has worked great. In fact, the other week when I swamped it. I was witching. And I was so panicked that I was winch with it in gear. And obviously engine was off and hydrolocked. Yet the winch was pulling despite tires not moving. Then a buddy said, hey , dude, your in gear. Haha

 

[scott]

The superwinch terra 3500# works great on the 500. I agree with the overkill statement but the differance in a 2000# and a 3500# is very small if any when it comes to size and weight. When you get to 6000-9000 that weight size will come into play.