Talon What you don't like about the Talon...

[SuperDutyJohn]

You're welcome to drive mine anytime you want. I would have to say the I4wd is pretty cool. This remindes me when the Honda 4 wheelers came out with push button electric shift and every one was skeptical about it. It's been out about 20 years now and it's great.

Yeah, I like my i4WD and I have both in a 2018. The i4WD is great in mud and I have actually used the hold in place brake just last weekend, it was a nice feature. Sure I'm worried it will break first but I also had one of the first Honda Foreman 450 ES

 

[Cuoutdoors]

I had a big wish list for this thing... so far here are the things I think they did wrong:

-No trailer hitch receiver.
- i4wd (No manual diff lock version).

No hitch is just dumb, and the i4wd might be a deal breaker for me. As far as I'm concerned the manual diff locks/drivetrain on my pioneer is mostly a win (could only be better if the diffs were independently lockable). I don't care for the i4wd, the hill start assist, or the fancy braking deal they've got. In my opinion that will just be more stuff to stop working down the road.

Does anyone know if the 2wd setting will be a locked rear diff, or will it be open? I assume it will be open, which is how I drive the pioneer 90% of the time, but being able to run locked 2wd would be fun in the talon... course with i4wd I guess that isn't possible.

I had a big wish list for this thing... so far here are the things I think they did wrong:

-No trailer hitch receiver.
- i4wd (No manual diff lock version).

No hitch is just dumb, and the i4wd might be a deal breaker for me. As far as I'm concerned the manual diff locks/drivetrain on my pioneer is mostly a win (could only be better if the diffs were independently lockable). I don't care for the i4wd, the hill start assist, or the fancy braking deal they've got. In my opinion that will just be more stuff to stop working down the road.

Does anyone know if the 2wd setting will be a locked rear diff, or will it be open? I assume it will be open, which is how I drive the pioneer 90% of the time, but being able to run locked 2wd would be fun in the talon... course with i4wd I guess that isn't possible.

Well if this is all you have to complain about I don't know what the big deal is. The Talon is a purpose built machine. I'm not sure why you would expect a trailer hitch or an open rear end. Race cars don't have open rear ends. They are made to go and go fast. This isn't made for driving around the yard. Im sure you'll be able to get a bolt on hitch if you really need it or have one made.

I get that folks want manual diff lock. To me that is an old school way of thinking and you've got to try the I4wd. It is awesome! I have seen a lot of axles break in diff lock and I have yet to find a situation where manual diff lock would have been better than I4wd. The biggest difference is how much easier it is to drive in i4wd. You don't have the harsh steering and the feeling of the drive line binding up. I used it plowing snow over the weekend and LOVED it! The i4wd works amazingly well and anyone that wants to try it is welcome to drive mine.

Folks can sit back and say "all that fancy electronic s*** is just something else to break" and you'll be left sitting in the dark ages. Or they can recognize that it greatly enhances the ability of the machine and the driver experience. Like sharp said, everyone was b****ing about the electronic shift on the atv's and here we are over 15 years later and I don't think I've ever heard a single person say theirs failed. We have basically seen intelligent 4wd in vehicles for over 15 years as well. It's about time they start using it in the off road market.

 

[pFive]

I like black trail rock crawling, the i-4wd seems weird to me, a limited slip diff that uses the brake to latch the free wheel to send power to the contacting wheel, that second it takes will need to be accounted for when your puckering the seat material off the chair.... I wont buy it.

 

[Cuoutdoors]

I think this will be a huge hit. It will grow on us and become very popular. We b****ed about the P1000 more and still do but Honda sells them every day.

I love the 1000R. It’s the same width as my pioneer so that’s cool. Looks to be able to hold a 30-32” tire easily. The bed storage is super nice. One might could even do an Overland trip with that size.

We just got two new models and I bet we see more. Plus the aftermarket will be all over this thing so the next couple of years will be awesome.

I can’t wait to test drive

I totally agree. Its exactly what I expected and I think it will only go up from here. Hopefully they have been putting a lot of time into this machine.

I was also impressed with the bed storage. It looks much deeper than all the others. You probably could put all of the NECESSARY items in there and get along fine. It may not haul all the beer some require but it looks like it would haul all the gear and food you need for a few days.

Some of the aftermarket stuff looks pretty sweet too!

 

[Cuoutdoors]

I like black trail rock crawling, the i-4wd seems weird to me, a limited slip diff that uses the brake to latch the free wheel to send power to the contacting wheel, that second it takes will need to be accounted for when your puckering the seat material off the chair.... I wont buy it.

I get that, and I had a LOT of questions about the I4wd before I bought my LE. Just ask @Tramguage1

But it doesn't take a second. It happens faster than you can snap your fingers and you don't even notice. This is one area where Honda is actually AHEAD of the game and it works flawlessly.

I bet 5 years from now you'll see it in a lot more machines.

 

[joeymt33]

The Pioneer shows the same screen when in park.

Only some of them. Depends on how the cables are adjusted.

I’m not sure which way is correct

 

[joeymt33]

Found it

 

[Hondasxs]

Does the tail gate lay flat? Lol.

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[joeymt33]

Don’t forget to burp the radiator!

 

[Dragon21]

The rear end on that R looks a lot more suspect to being damaged then the X. That ball joint looks scary where it is.

 

[strongbuilt]

Now the real question... Can we buy Talon parts to install on our pioneers to make them 104 hp??

 

[Cuoutdoors]

Now the real question... Can we buy Talon parts to install on our pioneers to make them 104 hp??

I want the 4wd switch


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[kukini]

The width of the two models is a deal breaker for me. They really should have released a 60" sport model instead of the 68" model. I get the 64" width is extremely popular but to ignore the popularity of the 60" sport segment is bad business in my opinion.

 

[CumminsPusher]

Suspension looks to be really off. Maybe factory set for safety? Idk but has me asking wtf.
Was wrong about a 60” inch grrr lol
Wish it had a belt
I4wd !
Hp a little low but livable
Price point? Want to know price!!

*just kidding about belt!

 

[Cuoutdoors]

You guys complaining about 60" really crack me up! Lol

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[CumminsPusher]

You guys complaining about 60" really crack me up! Lol

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Don’t like breaking s*** in the trails! A sport model doesn’t have the body protection from the trees like pioneer does so I was hoping for a little narrower so we don’t take our suspension or control arms...our trails aren’t designed for Jeeps

 

[Smitty335]

Not complaining, but Pro Armor is going to sell a bunch of door panels.

 

[Dragon21]

You guys complaining about 60" really crack me up! Lol

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I think places like Maine are limited to 60" width... so that means no Talon for them

 

[Cuoutdoors]

Don’t like breaking s*** in the trails! A sport model doesn’t have the body protection from the trees like pioneer does so I was hoping for a little narrower so we don’t take our suspension or control arms...our trails aren’t designed for Jeeps

Oh come on I've seen you drive and 4 inches wasn't gonna save you.

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[kukini]

I think places like Maine are limited to 60" width... so that means no Talon for them

That is correct, big land owners such as CMP and AFM have made it very clear that they don't want anything larger than 60" wide on their property and smaller landowners are following suit. Part of the reason is so that larger off-road vehicles don't tear things up. It's a serious compromise that while not perfect has yielded great benefits with over 6000 miles of interconnected trails that lead into New Hampshire, Quebec and New Brunswick. Starting from Pittsfield, ME a person can ride all the way to Quebec and starting in Ellsworth, ME a person can ride all the way to New Brunswick. Maine has been recognized as the best interconnected trail system in the country. Yes, the big width machines have their place but to totally ignore the potential sales in 7 states on the east coast is a business decision that has me curious.

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