Whats the best winch out there for the Honda Pioneer?

[JACKAL]

Don't you guys think 4500 lbs winch is a little too much for vehicles like honda pioneer 1000 (approx. 1550 lbs curb weight). What about (Vehicle Weight * 2) ??

The GVWR on a Pioneer 1000-5 is over 3,330 lbs. And in getting caked with a few hundred pounds of trail mud and 4-5 people the 4500 is barely enough. All those 4500# ratings are on the last row of cable, only the final 10ft out, you lose leverage the farther out the cable is used. FWIW.

Where I ride, I'm considering a 5k to 6k winch and I try to avoid deep mud.

Been running Superwinch Terra 45s since Jan 16 has always been great but I've found it's limits a few times needed 2 snatch blocks to get out.

 

[bradwin]

The GVWR on a Pioneer 1000-5 is over 3,330 lbs. And in getting caked with a few hundred pounds of trail mud and 4-5 people the 4500 is barely enough. All those 4500# ratings are on the first row of cable like 10ft out, you lose leverage the farther out the cable is used. FWIW.

Where I ride, I'm considering a 5k to 6k winch and I try to avoid deep mud.

Been running Superwinch Terra 45s since Jan 16 has always been great but I've found it's limits a few times needed 2 snatch blocks to get out.

Gotcha. Thanks, mate

 

[Scoop]

Don't you guys think 4500 lbs winch is a little too much for vehicles like honda pioneer 1000 (approx. 1550 lbs curb weight). What about (Vehicle Weight * 2) ??

I don't.

As a general rule of thumb, double the weight of the vehicle and buy your winch based on that. However, if I'm going to buy a 3500# winch, I might as well spend an extra few dollars and buy a slightly larger one so that it's not potentially working towards the bitter end of it's rating. Sure, I can drive a Yugo ~90 MPH, but do I get the same warm fuzzy feeling do that as driving a car with larger, more powerful motor 90 MPH? Nope.

There's far more to it than just the curb weight. Are you going to completely unload your bike and remove all the accessories you've installed before winching out? All that stuff adds up. You're also pulling against the muck and mud you're likely stuck in.

You also lose pulling capacity as you spool line onto the drum. Each wrap drops your pulling capacity by about 10%.

 

[Scoop]

All those 4500# ratings are on the first row of cable like 10ft out, you lose leverage the farther out the cable is used. FWIW.

Your winch is weaker when you have more rope on the drum.

 

[JACKAL]

Your winch is weaker when you have more rope on the drum.

Yeah, I really meant the last 10ft of rope / cable. Since it's they all are rated at the drum.

 

[JACKAL]

For what it's worth, I remember an off the record conversation about a powersports manufacturer testing all major brand winches at an R&D facility.

Of all the brands / models of winches tested, the Mile Marker brand outperformed every other brand and was the only winch that actually pulled strong enough to break the "test line" used in the controlled testing environment.

This has nothing to do with cost / performance just outright brute pulling strength.

PE5000 (ES) 5000 lb. WINCH

PE5000 (ES) 5000 lb. WINCH WITH SYNTHETIC ROPE UTV winch combines the powerful recovery power of their full size brothers in a rugged compact size.

milemarker.com

 

[Biteme]

Warn 4500#, bought at the dealer when I bought the machine in 2016, paid $600.00 for it, mount and wiring, dealer wanted an additional $600.00 to install.... installed it myself, was much later when I figured out the Honda dealership had a hell of a markup on the winch. That said the winch has had no issues other than pinching the cable and breaking it. For less than $100.00 (on sale and super coupon) I bought a badlands 3500# winch from Harbor Freight and installed on a Kawasaki Teryx4 I bought for the grandkids to drive, have had no issues with it either, both winches have done their share of pulling the machines out of tight spots and both perform well.

 

[Scoop]

I paid ~$197 for my Harbor Freight ZXR5000. Swapped the steel cable for a SATV synthetic cable (67.95). Have not used it yet (installed last month), but based on all the reviews and feedback I've seen here and elsewhere, I have full confidence in it.

I have a Superwinch Terra 35SR on my Grizzly 700 EPS. Have had zero issues out of it. I paid $279.71 for it on 1/15/2014, but it's $412.99 today.

Comparable to the ZXR5000 setup, the Superwinch 4500SR is $456.99 today.

I'm kinda liking the ~$266 I paid for the ZXR5000 setup. Down the road, we shall see if it was a good choice.

 

[Caper]

Don't you guys think 4500 lbs winch is a little too much for vehicles like honda pioneer 1000 (approx. 1550 lbs curb weight). What about (Vehicle Weight * 2) ??

I have a 4,000 lb warn on my pioneer 500. It works great. Would never switch.
Caper

 

[Dirtstiffs-1000]

6000# Motoalliance Viper Elite Widespool.

 

[KevP700-4]

4500# Warn an the P700-4. Used Honda mount and wiring. No problems moving oak logs. The wired remote worked nice, only better way would have been a wireless remote.

 

[mpilihp]

Hi this is a great resource, but Im also looking for info on the winch mount. I was planning on going with the KFI but the plow I want to also go with, the Denali says it does NOT work with the KFI mount. So curious of what other mounts people have used and like. Id like one that is easy to install (similar to the KFI) and mounts winch as high as possible.

Thanks! ~ Phil

 

[THEOLDMAN]

I really like that bumper

It is the JEI Offroad Bumper. Honda Pioneer 1000 Front Bumper

 

[THEOLDMAN]

Don't you guys think 4500 lbs winch is a little too much for vehicles like honda pioneer 1000 (approx. 1550 lbs curb weight). What about (Vehicle Weight * 2) ??

With the toolbox and extra weight spare tire, gas, storage box, ROCKS the wife has to have, I haul in mine warrants the #5000 on mine

 

[Dirtstiffs-1000]

With the toolbox and extra weight spare tire, gas, storage box, ROCKS the wife has to have, I haul in mine warrants the #5000 on mine

Agree..
6000# for all the s*** that I end up carrying around in ours...

 

[Dirtstiffs-1000]

6000# Motoalliance Viper Elite Widespool. And not waiting to see if it's a good winch. By then, it's too late.

 

[Buggyman]

I want to put together a winch buyers guide for the Honda Pioneer models. To do this I need some real world input that specs on paper will not give. Some winches cost $700+ while others cost $200 and pack just as much punch. Then there is the $100 disposable models, anyone had luck with them?

Some things I would like to know.

• What Pioneer do you have? 500, 700 or 1000
• What winch would you suggest and why?
• and what which is the best value out there for your Pioneer?

Leave comments below.
Thanks.


Best Winch for your Honda Pioneer!
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I also have the terra 45 with synthetic rope and hawse. never had a problem with it. mounted on a 2014 pioneer 700