P1000 White Lightning Build

snuffnwhisky submitted a new Garage Item:

White Lightning Build

Bought her 2 weeks ago. Had a full page s*** list the first night. Didn't really know about Honda having a sxs or much about sxs's until I talked to my brother about getting one. He works at the local Honda shop... lucky me! Started reading this forum after talking to him and out of the blue a guy at work wanted a four-wheeler and I had one... so it begins!

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[snuffnwhisky]

I’m still using the stock location air intake and play in the water a lot. Never an issue with the through hood snorkel. Just snorkel it and forget it.

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Agreed. I might swap mine back after looking at my filter soon.

 

[joeymt33]

That’s just a few pics, I’ve got lots of vids in deep water and never an issue.

Just tighten every connection from snorkel head to motor. Some guys have had the tubes slip off the throttle body.

Also, I run a 3” filter in place of the snorkel head and the stock filter stays a lot cleaner.

 

[ToddACimer]

@dswv42 , I've been really happy with the hood snorkel. I've definitely been in water that would have made me nervous with the stock inlet.

Between the UNI prefilter and K&N filter I'm probably not as clean as a Honda OEM filter but at least I'm not throwing away the filter every 1000 miles

 

[dswv42]

I’m still using the stock location air intake and play in the water a lot. Never an issue with the through hood snorkel. Just snorkel it and forget it.

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I'm sure it works, up to a point. However, relocating the air intake inlet is part of another idea I'm working on to address the exhaust manifold heat issues, one which does not require noisy bilge fans under the seat. You know how these things go, one change cascades into many.

 

[BigOL3]

This is what can happen to the stock cage, and while I know nothing about what actually happened, it appears to be a simple rollover accident. Combine this with the weak upper front control arm tabs, and considering that these machines can do 60 MPH, it's not hard to envision being killed after one failure cascades into another one.

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After thinking about it, I'm convinced that SXS manufacturers design these machines in a vacuum, with little to no consideration of just how safe they really are, or in this case... aren't. For example, here are some pretty basic questions that have been part of basic vehicle design for more than 50 years. What happens if someone hits a pothole at or near the vehicle's top speed? What happens during a rollover accident? What happens if the brakes fail completely? What happens if it jumps out of gear while parked on a hill? What happens if the exhaust gets too hot during a misfire? What happens if you hit something while driving and it flies up and hits the firewall or wheel well? It ain't exactly rocket science.

Granted, SXS manufacturers must do whatever they can to keep manufacturing costs as low as possible, while creating a product that people want to buy. However, most of the problems plaguing the Honda Pioneer 1000 could have been easily solved by simply using a little common sense and basic testing procedures. Better yet, they should have come up with designs, built reasonably safe production prototypes, then put them into the hands of people like us who would use and abuse them, seeing what works and what doesn't. It's a heck of a lot cheaper than the damage it can do to their reputation, let alone the cost of litigation if a child were to die due to faulty designs.

Personally, I'd like to see less "recall, recall, recall", less "cha ching, cha ching, cha ching", and more "fun, fun, fun".

I would say looks more like an 'end-over flip'.

 

[dswv42]

I would say looks more like an 'end-over flip'.

Yes, I agree. I was lazy with my description.

 

[joeymt33]

I'm sure it works, up to a point. However, relocating the air intake inlet is part of another idea I'm working on to address the exhaust manifold heat issues, one which does not require noisy bilge fans under the seat. You know how these things go, one change cascades into many.

I’m in the shop right now so I will take a picture of my set up which may help you.

First, The foil backing under the seat didn’t help very much until I used one piece that went from under the seat all the way up the back and that made a drastic difference.



Second, I made a little heat shield that helped quite a bit especially for the passenger side rear passenger seat.



This heat shield helps channel the air from the bilge fan out the back instead of it blowing up.



The 4” quiet series is what I used.

 

[joeymt33]

Also, use gorilla tape for the seat belt locations



Then the gear selector thingy helped a lot!

 

[dswv42]

I’m in the shop right now so I will take a picture of my set up which may help you.

First, The foil backing under the seat didn’t help very much until I used one piece that went from under the seat all the way up the back and that made a drastic difference.

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Second, I made a little heat shield that helped quite a bit especially for the passenger side rear passenger seat.

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This heat shield helps channel the air from the bilge fan out the back instead of it blowing up.

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The 4” quiet series is what I used.

Yes, metal shielding to form a duct cavity over the exhaust manifold is exactly what I have in mind. It blocks radiant heat and forced airflow reduces convection heating. The trick is carefully directing airflow to prevent superheated air from causing more problems.

 

[CumminsPusher]

That’s a good one right there.

“White lighting”....this build thread.....barrel rolled down a rocky hill in the fall of 2017. It rolled over twice. As you have probably noticed, it has a custom roll cage and it suffered absolutely zero damage with the exception of a cracked wheel spacer. The occupants were wearing their harnesses and there was no injuries.

I probably should do a new roll cage someday but I should first get it rolling again.

Bulls***. I hurt my pride.

 

[CumminsPusher]

I’m still using the stock location air intake and play in the water a lot. Never an issue with the through hood snorkel. Just snorkel it and forget it.

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3500 on the new machine and original filter here. New one has been sitting in my camper for over a year, maybe I’ll get to swapping it someday. I like the Joey snorkel.

 

[snuffnwhisky]

Yes, metal shielding to form a duct cavity over the exhaust manifold is exactly what I have in mind. It blocks radiant heat and forced airflow reduces convection heating. The trick is carefully directing airflow to prevent superheated air from causing more problems.

But causes the opposite problem when not moving or serious fan. Been there, done all of that X2...

 

[dswv42]

But causes the opposite problem when not moving or serious fan. Been there, done all of that X2...

I thought of that, and may have a viable solution in mind, but it's only theoretical at this time. One must be very careful not to trap heat, or it can certainly make things worse.

P1000 - Air Intake Design

The Honda engineers who designed the air filter system for the Honda Pioneer 1000 must have been drunk. Seriously, they designed an engine air intake system with a wet sump and no drain to allow water to escape, then placed the intake in the front to ensure that its always full of water. And if...

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Damn RaceLine centercaps!!!