Who are the winners and losers of the post cv-19 era?

[BigOL3]

Only because it elects Republican PV losers....If you had read on you’d have seen I pointed out the manifest reasons that Republicans like the status quo.
Now we can be certain that were the electoral college to always favor the Democratic Party that it would be republicans calling for a discussion.

Exactly WTH makes you think I did not read ALL of it???? I DID, therefore your assumptions are totally off base. Thankfully the FF had enough foresight to realize a few heavy populated areas could possible cancel out the rest of the nation. IF that continually happened the many states without a voice would say ....... screw it ....... we are out.

 

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[Montecresto]

Exactly WTH makes you think I did not read ALL of it???? I DID, therefore your assumptions are totally off base. Thankfully the FF had enough foresight to realize a few heavy populated areas could possible cancel out the rest of the nation. IF that continually happened the many states without a voice would say ....... screw it ....... we are out.

That hasn’t happened though, every time a president has lost the PV but still won the office, it’s been a Republican. It’s a given that you’d be no fan of the EC if it favored the Democrats so.....😉

 

[L2R]

It does not bother me that the popular vote typically determines the winner.
The electoral college vote is tied to it, so its to be expected.
Maybe this is big issue to you, it isn't really on my radar.

I have greater concerns for many other issues that our leaders cannot solve in part because they are driven by greed, self promotion and hungry for more power. This pandemic is proving to make many politicians winners with pork in the 2 trillion they passed and ultimately our grandchildren will still be the losers.

 

[BigOL3]

Never thought I would see this happen in the deep South, even in a town with a liberal mayor. Here is a written article with a video and also radio host Todd Starnes interview and opinions. Pure UNconstitutional.

‘Are You Angry, America?’ Todd Starnes Vows to Pay Fines for Mississippi Churchgoers - Todd Starnes

Todd Starnes blasted the city of Greenville, Miss., for issuing fines to parishioners who listened to a church service from their cars.

www.toddstarnes.com

 

[BigOL3]

That hasn’t happened though, every time a president has lost the PV but still won the office, it’s been a Republican. It’s a given that you’d be no fan of the EC if it favored the Democrats so.....😉

What is a GIVEN is you dont know crap. What you don't know would fill a library ....... lol

 

[Montecresto]

It does not bother me that the popular vote typically determines the winner.
The electoral college vote is tied to it, so its to be expected.
Maybe this is big issue to you, it isn't really on my radar.

I have greater concerns for many other issues that our leaders cannot solve in part because they are driven by greed, self promotion and hungry for more power. This pandemic is proving to make many politicians winners with pork in the 2 trillion they passed and ultimately our grandchildren will still be the losers.

It’s really not a big issue to me. This all started with my comment to another poster regarding the accuracy of polling, and has morphed to this. It’s not going to change as I’ve pointed out twice now and really is moot therefore.

 

[Montecresto]

What is a GIVEN is you dont know crap. What you don't know would fill a library ....... lol

Well that’s no rebuttal....

 

[BigOL3]

"If you had read on you’d have seen" ......... It’s a given that you’d be no fan of the EC if it favored the Democrats so.....😉

Do you EVER get tired of making yourself look stupid? You last two post that you replied to me you made BLATANTLY untrue statements. EC is Constitutional, got nothing to do with D or R!

 

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[Ragnar406]

Only because it elects Republican PV losers....If you had read on you’d have seen I pointed out the manifest reasons that Republicans like the status quo.
Now we can be certain that were the electoral college to always favor the Democratic Party that it would be republicans calling for a discussion.

Was the Democratic Party not created in part because of the loss of a candidate to the EC? Seems it is in their DNA to oppose. Th founding fathers under stood tha mob rule was not the way to go and it why we are a republic

 

[Montecresto]

Was the Democratic Party not created in part because of the loss of a candidate to the EC? Seems it is in their DNA to oppose. Th founding fathers under stood tha mob rule was not the way to go and it why we are a republic

The constitution is silent about parties, the first president was wholly opposed to them, but that didn’t influence many because by 1792 Jefferson/Madison were developing the Democratic-Republican party, the federalists formed in opposition. Federalists dissolved after the war of 1812 and the Whig Party arose, itself to dissolve in 1856 when the Republican Party was formed.

Only ten percent of American presidents have won the office having lost the popular vote and they all are republicans. Obama has won the most votes of any president in American history, both times, and still it represented a scant 21% of Americans.

There’s never been mob rule. But again, if the democrats were the ones favored by the EC, it’s a given that Republicans would be opposing it.

 

[LarryAmboy]

Accept for a little thing called the EC. Clinton won the PV by 3 million votes.

So you don’t like or accept the constitution?


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[Montecresto]

So you don’t like or accept the constitution?


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Wrong, the constitution is awesome. It just had some things either wrong from the beginning, or was unable to look into the future and address issues that would come along in a changing world. That’s why it’s been amended 27 times in the past. It’s not that those who amended it didn’t like it, it’s that they recognized it wasn’t serving contemporary interests as written....🤷‍♂️

 

[LarryAmboy]

The constitution is silent about parties, the first president was wholly opposed to them, but that didn’t influence many because by 1792 Jefferson/Madison were developing the Democratic-Republican party, the federalists formed in opposition. Federalists dissolved after the war of 1812 and the Whig Party arose, itself to dissolve in 1856 when the Republican Party was formed.

Only ten percent of American presidents have won the office having lost the popular vote and they all are republicans. Obama has won the most votes of any president in American history, both times, and still it represented a scant 21% of Americans.

There’s never been mob rule. But again, if the democrats were the ones favored by the EC, it’s a given that Republicans would be opposing it.

You forgot to add the dems are/were the party of slavery. Lincoln was a Republican


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[Montecresto]

You forgot to add the dems are/were the party of slavery. Lincoln was a Republican


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I didn’t know that slavery was the topic....

 

[BigOL3]

Only ten percent of American presidents have won the office having lost the popular vote and they all are republicans. Obama has won the most votes of any president in American history, both times, and still it represented a scant 21% of Americans.

There’s never been mob rule. But again, if the democrats were the ones favored by the EC, it’s a given that Republicans would be opposing it.

Not true ......the first was J.Q. Adams as a Democratic-Republican Party which was neither of todays D's nor R's. To FURTHER PROVE the error of your earlier previous post implying me being an R but being against the EC, I would have loved for the D to win the 1876 presidential election as well as 1888 election.

 

[Mopower58]

Looks like the EC was right to me!

https://www.facebook.com/video.php?v=824901981361506

 

[Montecresto]

Not true ......the first was J.Q. Adams as a Democratic-Republican Party which was neither of todays D's nor R's. To FURTHER PROVE the error of your earlier previous post implying me being an R but being against the EC, I would have loved for the D to win the 1876 presidential election as well as 1888 election.

Yes, known at the time as the Republican Party per your link, what’s the point. The Democratic Party organizationally formed in 1830 around Andrew Jackson

 

[Mopower58]

Democrats/Liberals, pro abortion, pro homo, pro green deal, anti oil, socialist leaning.

 

[Montecresto]

Democrats/Liberals, pro abortion, pro homo, pro green deal, anti oil, socialist leaning.

There are conservative Republicans that are gay. Majorities in both parties now believe homosexuality should be socially accepted.

You’re still promoting historic viewpoints.

5. Homosexuality, gender and religion

Over the past two decades, there has been a dramatic increase in public acceptance of homosexuality, as well as same-sex marriage. Still, the partisan

www.people-press.org

Liberal democrats aren’t anti oil. That’s just flaming. The party is however interested in the industry being sufficiently regulated to protect the environment, which once upon a time was a conservative value as well.

As far as socialist leanings. That describes Americans generally, despite the denial by so many, who utilize and appreciate the social programs that have evolved throughout American history, yet are not provided for in the US constitution.