P1000 Wider rears vs. all around

[Crash14]

Lookin for pros and cons. Wider rear tires vs. same width all around.

 

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[BWAF]

Lookin for pros and cons. Wider rear tires vs. same width all around.

Im running 235-75r-15 all the way round 1"spacer on rear so far so good like the thought of being able to rotate .

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[Smitty335]

Lookin for pros and cons. Wider rear tires vs. same width all around.

If you go with same size rims, your fronts will be wider by 1 inch each side, if you ride wide open places the width won't hurt you with spacers, where I ride it would be cumbersome,

 

[ATM0816]

Lookin for pros and cons. Wider rear tires vs. same width all around.

I had the Outlaw 2 28’s, 11 in the rear and 9.5 in the fronts for the past year. We do a lot of deep thick mud riding, and although more traction with the wider tire it adds more weight, especially when caked on with that peanut butter mud. We went with 9.5 all the way around (which will be here Wednesday woot woot) and gonna see how that works out. Also allows for Tire rotation which is nice.

 

[Smitty335]

I had the Outlaw 2 28’s, 11 in the rear and 9.5 in the fronts for the past year. We do a lot of deep thick mud riding, and although more traction with the wider tire it adds more weight, especially when caked on with that peanut butter mud. We went with 9.5 all the way around (which will be here Wednesday woot woot) and gonna see how that works out. Also allows for Tire rotation which is nice.

I think you will be surprised how well they do. Have fun!

 

[ATM0816]

I think you will be surprised how well they do. Have fun!

I think you will be surprised how well they do. Have fun!

Wife got me the 29.5 Outlaw 2’s and I get to put them on before my Busco trip this weekend so I’m pretty stoked. The OL’s are no joke and all my folks will bust on me for having a Honda (all in good fun) but I go through all they do if not more but we all have a blast. Haha

 

[Hondasxs]

Same size all around on aftermarket 14x7 wheel with same offset:

Pros

• Same size tire.
• you can rotate them front to back.
• no need to worry about having right size spare.
• If going with a large tire they are usually one size anyways.

Cons

• with factory wheels, they look weird, need spacers on the rear. Another $100
• Loose wide rear footprint.
• A little bit harder to steer due to wider front vs 9" front. But you really won't notice this.
• As listed, Need to buy 4 wheels all same size.

 

[Cuoutdoors]

Im running 235-75r-15 all the way round 1"spacer on rear so far so good like the thought of being able to rotate .View attachment 78993View attachment 78994View attachment 78995View attachment 78996

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I have the same set up and I love it.

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[trigger]

There is a reason that all these machines come with wider tires on the back. Gives more contact with the ground for the drive wheels and provides a little flotation in the sand. Skinny tires dig especially in snow and sand and that's not always a benefit. Any width of spare will work, usually a front, it's just there to get you through until the flat is repaired. As for rotation, unless you do a lot of pavement riding, I don't see the need. Wonder how many guys running the same size have actually rotated their tires?

 

[oldtrucks]

I have once in 7400 miles. Had to dismount and remount. Most of my riding is on pavement and logging roads. I am running Maxis Bighorn lite truck tire and the wear front to rear is pretty even.

 

[0860silverado]

Ok I can't believe JTW didn't chime in so I'll do the honors... As long as the rear is wider, I like it.

 

[BWAF]

There is a reason that all these machines come with wider tires on the back. Gives more contact with the ground for the drive wheels and provides a little flotation in the sand. Skinny tires dig especially in snow and sand and that's not always a benefit. Any width of spare will work, usually a front, it's just there to get you through until the flat is repaired. As for rotation, unless you do a lot of pavement riding, I don't see the need. Wonder how many guys running the same size have actually rotated their tires?

Only 300 miles on mine I'll let you know

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[Cuoutdoors]

There is a reason that all these machines come with wider tires on the back. Gives more contact with the ground for the drive wheels and provides a little flotation in the sand. Skinny tires dig especially in snow and sand and that's not always a benefit. Any width of spare will work, usually a front, it's just there to get you through until the flat is repaired. As for rotation, unless you do a lot of pavement riding, I don't see the need. Wonder how many guys running the same size have actually rotated their tires?

‍♂️ I rotate mine every 500 miles or so. I ride a lot of gravel roads. Wear has been pretty even though anyway. My tires won't float like some but I can air them down if I need to. Yes any spare the same diameter will do but if I'm out riding at royal blue, or Colorado or Utah and destroy a tire it's nice to have a spare that will replace any of them. I may not be able to repair and a replacement is likely not an option out there.

To the OP, you'll have to decide what that extra 1-2" of tire width on the rear is worth to ya. I run the same tire on all 4 and haven't been left behind yet. Just pick whatever suits ya.

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[0860silverado]

There is a reason that all these machines come with wider tires on the back. Gives more contact with the ground for the drive wheels and provides a little flotation in the sand. Skinny tires dig especially in snow and sand and that's not always a benefit. Any width of spare will work, usually a front, it's just there to get you through until the flat is repaired. As for rotation, unless you do a lot of pavement riding, I don't see the need. Wonder how many guys running the same size have actually rotated their tires?

While those are side benefits, the reason for the wider tires in the rear is one of simple physics. Since these types of machines are extremely rear weight biased, there are only two options for tire size/pressure: If your front and rear tires have the same interior cubic inch volume, the rears would require more PSI to support the weight. This would make for poor traction, a rough ride, and premature wheel bearing and suspension component wear due to less tire flex. If your rear tires have more interior cubic inch volume the the fronts, they can support more weight at the same PSI than the front tires - preserving traction, ride quality, and bearing/suspension life. But I dunno...I've had a few beers. I never took a physics class. I just like the concept.

 

[BWAF]

While those are side benefits, the reason for the wider tires in the rear is one of simple physics. Since these types of machines are extremely rear weight biased, there are only two options for tire size/pressure: If your front and rear tires have the same interior cubic inch volume, the rears would require more PSI to support the weight. This would make for poor traction, a rough ride, and premature wheel bearing and suspension component wear due to less tire flex. If your rear tires have more interior cubic inch volume the the fronts, they can support more weight at the same PSI than the front tires - preserving traction, ride quality, and bearing/suspension life. But I dunno...I've had a few beers. I never took a physics class. I just like the concept.

I can see that but stock

Honda recommended COLD pressure levels:
Front: 10 PSI (70 kPa), Under heavy load maintain 10 PSI in front tires.
Rear: 12 PSI (80 kPa), Under heavy load maxim 18 PSI (120 kPa)

I'm running 8 in front 11 in back on my truck tires the ride I lost was from tires being made so much heavier made .but I should never worry about a flat, it's a trade off where you ride and what you want .

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[0860silverado]

I can see that but stock

Honda recommended COLD pressure levels:
Front: 10 PSI (70 kPa), Under heavy load maintain 10 PSI in front tires.
Rear: 12 PSI (80 kPa), Under heavy load maxim 18 PSI (120 kPa)

I'm running 8 in front 11 in back on my truck tires the ride I lost was from tires being made so much heavier made .but I should never worry about a flat, it's a trade off where you ride and what you want .

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Without doing all the math, I'd say you're in a good range. Bigger tire means more sq.in. contact patch which means you should use less psig.