2024 Can-am. What in the... ?

[Hondasxs]

Futuristic a-arm design to limit tire size.
Off-level display to match rider experience.
Limited axle headroom.
Brake lines in a great location.

 

[CID]

Futuristic a-arm design to limit tire size.
Off-level display to match rider experience.
Limited axle headroom.
Brake lines in a great location.

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A-arm design - stoopit as sh!t.
WTF is off-level design to match rider experience?
WTF is limited axle headroom?
Brake lines in a great location - well, izn't that special. A third grader could pull that off.

 

[Hondasxs]

A-arm design - stoopit as sh!t.
WTF is off-level design to match rider experience?
WTF is limited axle headroom?
Brake lines in a great location - well, izn't that special. A third grader could pull that off.

Inspect the pictures to see.

 

[JenElio]

Seems like it would do great right where they're testing it.....dry lake beds/salt flats 🤦‍♂️

 

[lee]

Several things at play with the suspension geometry.

The problem with large travel sport SxS suspension is the actual wheel camber and track width control over a large suspension travel.
To get ~20" travel the arms are long but the distance between them is not.
So the designer has to choose between controlling camber (keeping the wheels upright) as the suspension strokes or maintaining the track width.
This is off road racing 101 ever since trucks and buggies started moving away from the old VW based trailing arm system (which has its own issues).

Caned-Ham is going down a different path.
The tall knuckle allows the better camber control while maintaining the track width throughout the suspension stroke.
An added bonus is the upper arm can be (relatively) shorter allowing room for the radiator and other junk stuffed away in the front.

Some observations on the tall knuckle layout.
As the upper arm moves up there is a problem with the ball joint location (maybe you noticed).
While the upper ball joint is inside the rim it can live in an outboard position.
Once the upper ball joint is as high as the rim the ball joint is pushed inboard to a position that screws up the suspension geometry.
But once the upper ball joint is above the tire it can move back out to where the suspension geometry works again.
But it blocks changing the tire size (putting on 8 inch spacers will screw with the suspension geometry again).

Another interesting observation is the relative strength of the arms.
In a typical road car the lower arm carrier about 2/3 of the load (rule of thumb) – this is why the lower ball joint is larger than the upper.
As the upper ball joint moves up the portion of the load carried by the upper ball joint is reduced even more.
Looking at the Canned-Ham’s front suspension the lower arm looks much beefier. (and I suspect the upper arm is aluminum and therefore proportionally larger than the steel lower arm – but just a guess)

I do like the shock attachment on the lower arm.
Tried that once or twice in the past but never got away with it.
It’s strong and it has good packaging – keeps the hood lower for better visibility.

Finally, look at a mid ‘80s Honda Prelude front suspension.
On a car where performance was more important than perception I would be all over this layout.

 

[JACKAL]

Futuristic a-arm design to limit tire size.
Off-level display to match rider experience.
Limited axle headroom.
Brake lines in a great location.

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So whats the biggest tire I can run without a lift ?
Whats the best oil for the engine & DCT?

 

[lee]

Whats the best oil for the engine & DCT?

Same oil as you put in your diesel truck.
Because - diesel homo.

 

[ODAMO]

A-arm design - stoopit as sh!t.
WTF is off-level design to match rider experience?
WTF is limited axle headroom?
Brake lines in a great location - well, izn't that special. A third grader could pull that off.

I believe it was sarcasm

 

[Remington]

Futuristic a-arm design to limit tire size.
Off-level display to match rider experience.
Limited axle headroom.
Brake lines in a great location.

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Looks similar to the arms and knuckles on my Canned Ham sled. Its a 23’ but then again they have had them like this for yrs

 

[CID]

I believe it was sarcasm

Nope, serious as a heart attack.

Still don't know what either of these mean -

WTF is off-level design to match rider experience?
WTF is limited axle headroom?

 

[JACKAL]

Gonna be some Cartel guys running these things. $61, 981 + taxes with accsy package LMAO


Polaris our ADV EXPEDITION loaded is $55K

CAN AM hold our Bud Light $62K

 

[Hondasxs]

Nope, serious as a heart attack.

Still don't know what either of these mean -

WTF is off-level design to match rider experience?
WTF is limited axle headroom?

LOL.
The display is crooked in the images. For having such high travel, the axles have very little room for play.

 

[ODAMO]

Gonna be some Cartel guys running these things. $61, 981 + taxes with accsy package LMAO


Polaris our ADV EXPEDITION loaded is $55K

CAN AM hold our Bud Light $62K


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The polaris 1500 xd 4 door totally optioned out comes in just over $70,000

 

[JACKAL]

The polaris 1500 xd 4 door totally optioned out comes in just over $70,000

Well there ya go.

Man once you breach that $40K mark shoot just build a Bronco or Jeep. doesn't matter WHAT $50K toy goes on the trail, scratches dents etc its still $50K. Just as well solve the darn dust, heat, noise, and get 300 mile range while your throwing $$$ down the trail.

I question my sanity of investing $34k in my RMAX with all the farkles to "protect it & me"

 

[lee]

I question my sanity of investing $34k in my RMAX

We do too

 

[ODAMO]

The polaris 1500 xd 4 door totally optioned out comes in just over $70,000

And for the record, the base curb weight for the xd 4 door is 3300 lbs. Thats the same as a xj jeep cherokee.......

 

[ChadD]

Looks similar to the arms and knuckles on my Canned Ham sled. Its a 23’ but then again they have had them like this for yrs
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Also belt driven 🙄🤣

 

[DRZRon1]

Well there ya go.

Man once you breach that $40K mark shoot just build a Bronco or Jeep. doesn't matter WHAT $50K toy goes on the trail, scratches dents etc its still $50K. Just as well solve the darn dust, heat, noise, and get 300 mile range while your throwing $$$ down the trail.

I question my sanity of investing $34k in my RMAX with all the farkles to "protect it & me"

most intellligent comment on this site in months - as well as cant hide money

 

[DG Rider]

Did they introduce any new SxS's?

 

[highpocket74]

The X3 has always been ugly to me. This new rig pins the ugly factor wide open. It will be interesting to see if any of the racers actually run this suspension setup.

These things are getting too expensive for the average rider now. This may be great for a race team but even they still have to build up a race vehicle from this consumer platform.

Oddly how Can-am didn't put the spotlight on the 7 speed transmission. I watch the S3 racing videos all the time and I can't keep track of how many belt changes they make per race!