P1000 Connecting battery for emergency

[Bryston]

Hi,
I have a dual battery on my 1000, with True isolator, the other day my main battery was dying so I ended up using a boosting it with booster cable from the socond battery.
Can I install a cable between the + sides with battery switch for emergency with the True isolator already installed?
If I accidentally leave the switch between the battery on will that damage any thing?
Thanks

 

[Admin]

 

[Scoop]

While it shouldn't harm anything, per se, I wouldn't do that myself. You're creating a permanent (potential) Band-Aid when you should be addressing the root cause. And that Band-Aid could lead to issues if you leave it "on" while an issue is still present.

I would:

1. Determine root cause and fix it (e.g., replace defective battery, find short and address, etc.)

2. Make a jumper cable (or buy a battery cable) and keep it with you, just in case you want to override the normal operation of the isolator (open circuit) in order to start the buggy in an emergency. 6 gauge or bigger wire (bigger means lower number, like 4 gauge).

Assuming your charging source is not the root of your issue, there is no need to keep the batteries connected after starting. If you do that and the cause of the drain is still present, you risk running down the AUX battery, too.

 

[Hondasxs]

No issue with said design. Just don't forget to disconnect it.

But as said. I carry this extra wire in my glove box for just this reason. I've used it several times already for mine and other machines.

Just place/hold it on the 2 isolator post for a moment while someone cranks it.

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[Bryston]

Thank you, I think my battery need replacement it will charge but discharge quickly, the volt meter read 14-14.2v while engine running. I assume it should be charging, battery will charge some but when left for 2 days it dies, checked for parasitic current can’t find any? Tha machine not used for the whole winter( heated Grage but not battery tender). My fault.
I just wanted a switch for emergency only, instead of looking for jumper cable ( I already have hidden somewhere). The switch will be under the hood.
Thanks

 

[Smitty335]

Hi,
I have a dual battery on my 1000, with True isolator, the other day my main battery was dying so I ended up using a boosting it with booster cable from the socond battery.
Can I install a cable between the + sides with battery switch for emergency with the True isolator already installed?
If I accidentally leave the switch between the battery on will that damage any thing?
Thanks

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I wouldn't do it, but I'm stupid and would forget to turn it off some where down the line.

 

[Mark in Northern Iowa]

All above were giving you options and why it could be a problem later.
But, if it works for you, do it. I did, just what you are asking about.
I actually have a tri battery system.
WTF, WHY?? Because I can, and I had most of the items already.
If you think strictly farm use, lots of snow plowing(winch use), you might understand.
I have you all's normal dual system, but on my floor in the center is a 1000 CCA deep cycle battery. It is attached, in parallel, to the secondary(aux) system. In winter my Honda sits out side. Evening, trickle charger is plugged in.
Is that 1000 cca over kill? Yep, but I never worry about not having enough power.
Here is my dash.

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Here is the wiring for the Flux Capacitor

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The only purpose of the Flux Capacitor switch, is to provide power in the event the main battery can not. Nope, I have never needed it, and most likely never will.
Hopefully, exactly like the weapon that is always on my side.
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If you wanted something under the hood like you said, you could use a turn switch like this.

https://www.amazon.com/Volt-Battery-Disconnect-Kill-Switch/dp/B007O0BBFM?tag=sxsweb24-20

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Wire it in like this.

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Have a good day

 

[CID]

I'd put MiNI's emergency bypass switch right on the dash where I could see whether it's On or Off, not hidden under the hood.

 

[Scoop]

If I was this worried about not being able to start my buggy, I'd simply carry this and not add a bunch of complexity and additional points of failure to the machine:

Limited-time deal: NOCO Boost X GBX75 2500A 12V UltraSafe Portable Lithium Jump Starter, Car Battery Booster Pack, USB-C Powerbank Charger, and Jumper Cables for up to 8.5-Liter Gas and 6.5-Liter Diesel Engines

https://www.amazon.com/dp/B08WYKD6TY?tag=sxsweb24-20

With how you use your Pioneer, @Mark in Northern Iowa, your solution is spot on. But not for "average/normal" use.

 

[NewHere2]

Similar to Hondasxs, I made this short jumper wire to go across the Isolator Terminals.

Easy to store. One person can install it quickly, no tools needed.

 

[TripleB]

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Similar to Hondasxs, I made this short jumper wire to go across the Isolator Terminals.

Easy to store. One person can install it quickly, no tools needed.

Fancy

 

[Smitty335]

Fancy

There you go again, talking plane english! I like it!

 

[Bryston]

Thanks all, I may consider the switch on the dash.

 

[bumperm]

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Similar to Hondasxs, I made this short jumper wire to go across the Isolator Terminals.

Easy to store. One person can install it quickly, no tools needed.

Nice job . . . but I see you overlooked a potential problem. You have the red wire hooked up to the negative (black) side of each clip handle. That could easily confuse most dumber electrons (or even queer electrons that blow fuses) to cause a high resistance connection or even the dreaded "reverse polarity, high resistance short circuit"!

 

[NewHere2]

Nice job . . .queer electrons that blow

Blow watt ???

The old clips were bare copper. I found some vinyl tubing, shoved it on there and held it in place with the black shrink wrap. I was out of red. Then a few days later i purchased more red shrink wrap and installed it on the outer clips.

That’s why I mentioned “across the Isolator Terminals”.

I appreciate your attention to details. I surely wouldn’t want to confuse anyone.

It’s so easy a caveman can do it !

When I do loan it out, I require the individual watch a 13 minute instructional video and sign a release form.

Can’t be too careful these days.

Thank You Kind Sir !

 

[NewHere2]

Gees , I just remembered, I built that for my 700 !! Anyone know if it will work on my 1000 ?? Maybe make the wire longer to accommodate the extra 300 cc.