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Agree. The point i was attempting to make is i believe we have to start somewhere
That is always the age old argument by those that don’t understand, hear, or believe the fundamental science and engineering hard facts behind arguments counter to their position.

Thus because “we” have to start somewhere we must have a mandate....
 
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Leadership can make make things possible by enhancing innovation and development. I don't know that electric car's are an answer, but I think a lot of smart people are working on it- results are yet to be seen.
Mandating is not leading....it’s totally head located in posterior.

All it is doing is artificially picking winners.
 
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We had a customer with an EV Ranger, we were building a Mule FXT for him.

He said the tires wouldnt go anywhere and if you put more agressive tires on it, the machine didn't have the ass to spin them.

If auto manufacturers havent gotten it figured all the way out yet, its going to be decades before powersports guys to make it happen.
Does everyone know that Auto manufacturers have been working on electrical vehicles for over 100 years?

no joke.

The electric golf cart is the closest to a reliable off road SXS at the moment.
 
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Let the engineers figure it out, keep the effin' politicians away from it. When it becomes fiscally responsible (including the disposal of tons of dead batteries) let me know.
 
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You young guys may not be too happy, not a problem for us Super Seniors. Some of the electric motorcycles are pretty good now. For big SxS rides you could always carry an extra $3,000 battery and have a passenger to help install it.

California will be banning sales of new non-electric off-road vehicles | Visordown
Pos state is already having problems not having enough power. Pulling power from other states. Wondering how all this’ll go down. Guess we need to create much more energy from nukes and fossil fuel to turn into clean electricity. Then more lithium mining to store it.
good times ahead.
 
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But THEY have to have a private jet. They are the ruling elite. Just do as I say, not as I do

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That’s another thing that makes me angry. A lot of those elites that own multiple mansions and then show up on private jets and personal yachts to talk about climate change and how to help. Ya I guess if you do nothing yourself and take away from 95% of the rest your still helping right?
 
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Pos state is already having problems not having enough power. Pulling power from other states. Wondering how all this’ll go down. Guess we need to create much more energy from nukes and fossil fuel to turn into clean electricity. Then more lithium mining to store it.
good times ahead.
I think your totally missing the point.
The amount of energy (in our house and in our cars) is not sustainable.
We need to reduce the energy usage through conservation and mitigation.
Things like riding the bus to work will save on the daily usage but also there is no need to mine the steel and lithium to make a car since you now ride the bus!
See how well that works. (all the while we are sitting on tons/barrels of coal and oil)

Like @hondabob I'm looking forward to being dead.
 
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Electric "stuff" may not be an answer, but it can be a first step. Fwiw i made a lot of money in the timber industry and i full well understand the unwillingness of the preservationists to consider anyone else. Am i hearing the same thing here
I think what your hearing is "if it is so good it will sell itself." Also quit cramming it down our throats by slamming your virtue signaling, often devoid of any critical thought, political mandates on our choices. I would submit that most of the folks on this board are technically inclined, and open minded enough to evaluate the merits of battery tech and decide for themselves without some political hack telling them what's good for them.
A major utility solar player (actually the customers) here in CO is paying 41 mil to get out of solar contracts because the massive solar farm in the San Luis Valley is a complete failure. The same folks who screech about soil bacteria being disturbed by UTVs cast a blind eye to predatory windmill bird choppers, and focused beam solar bird incinerators. Perhaps we can make electric utv charging stations in the outback from savaged parts from all the completely failed solar farms that now have to have all their toxic components disposed of. Naw, they would find a reason to hate that too.

This is coming from a person who has lived the off grid life for over 20 years on solar and done tons of stuff in the energy conservation field.
If your interested in electric power sports Volcon ePowersports Forum A zero to 60 electric utv in the 4 second range might appeal to some here.
 
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I think your totally missing the point.
The amount of energy (in our house and in our cars) is not sustainable.
We need to reduce the energy usage through conservation and mitigation.
Things like riding the bus to work will save on the daily usage but also there is no need to mine the steel and lithium to make a car since you now ride the bus!
See how well that works. (all the while we are sitting on tons/barrels of coal and oil)

Like @hondabob I'm looking forward to being dead.
Maybe there will be really bad ass Sxs’s in the afterlife.
 
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I'm a contractor in Montana it's -15 today battery's don't work in the cold.
The majority of my cordless tools are Milwaukee and are some of the best battery's I've ever been around. They give you the big F off it sub zero weather.
Public transit LOL what is that?
As a very avid outdoorsman I walk more miles in the mountains a year than I ride my atvs.
I believe climate change is real. up hear if your paying attention and you look back at photos of years gone past you can see it.
I don't see a viable replacement for fossil fuel. But I do believe if our tax dollars are going to be used for cooperate subsidies they should go to finding a better alternative and not the fossil fuel industries
But I'm a walking oxymoron I would probably shoot you if you tried taking away my diesel truck or my big ass V8s there is no substitution for the heavy rumbling heart racing power of the internal combustion engine.
 
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I'm a contractor in Montana it's -15 today battery's don't work in the cold.
The majority of my cordless tools are Milwaukee and are some of the best battery's I've ever been around. They give you the big F off it sub zero weather.
Public transit LOL what is that?
As a very avid outdoorsman I walk more miles in the mountains a year than I ride my atvs.
I believe climate change is real. up hear if your paying attention and you look back at photos of years gone past you can see it.
I don't see a viable replacement for fossil fuel. But I do believe if our tax dollars are going to be used for cooperate subsidies they should go to finding a better alternative and not the fossil fuel industries
But I'm a walking oxymoron I would probably shoot you if you tried taking away my diesel truck or my big ass V8s there is no substitution for the heavy rumbling heart racing power of the internal combustion engine.
You didn’t need to state you were from Montana with all you said, it was obvious. In a good way. Just came back from your great state. And welcome!
 
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Many times necessity drives innovation. Amazing how fast new technology comes when the cheese is moved. I work for you a technology company, as competitors make it harder to compete we miraculously come up with new innovation that keep our edge. Look what Tesla has done in a short time. Yes they only represent less than 1% of cars sold, but that’s how many of our technologies start out. Costs come down and then economics of scale drive costs further. I love my gas engines. Think about tools. Most of us use cordless tools now. 10 years ago they were not good enough due to power or battery life.
 
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The peoples Socialist Republic of California does stupid chit all the time, so it doesn't surprise me that they would enforce something like that on there people! True to there form of a Socialist republic. Just sayin!

Hence after being born there in 1962 and seeing Sandy Koufax pitch in Dodger Stadium for my first ballgame, I now live in Tennessee.

What happened to California broke my heart.
 
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