Electric only in CA 2035

[Bruce4795]

People just don’t get it. The electricity needed does have to come fro somewhere. The car still needs to be built. The batteries still have to come from somewhere. It ain’t magic.
to replace an already existing rig to a new electric one is imo not helping. To have a set date on when gas won’t be allowed really puts a hurt on a lot of people. Gas will go up and it’ll be done to force bs agenda. Anyone that has a gas powered car now has 0 equity and is forced to basically buy new, it takes under 1/2 the manual labor to build electric so those are out of work, any mom/pop repair place is out of business, most other repair shops as well. Be a lot of people out if business.
Electric cars don’t require as much maintenance but it’ll become much more specialized so the consumer will wind up having to pay more strictly dealer. Things will be much more replace then repair, and if I’ve learned ANYTHING in the business it’s that not only is technology it’s far more expensive down the road and effects resale huge. Diesel trucks are one example, high end European cars another, a f***ing 1500$ taillight when an led goes out is another so people are very wary of used technology and the price suffers. Batteries when the car has many miles on it will prove to be scary and only the well off will be ok with something new. A backyard hardworking guy is done.
Lube shops are done as well. And same with performance or custom installed items, now you just call up manufacture with credit card and crap that was there you just pay extra for, but at a massive premium. It’ll become impossible and illegal to mess with anything not to mention so integrated that you can’t. But that integration will cost you up front, during the life of the rig and resale value.
Some things won’t be able to be reproduced on electricity but that’s stuff the left doesn’t do so it’s no matter.
Then you simply talk about control, it’ll be real hard to be in situation where you need to push people out of your way or the likes of if it came down to it. All you need to do soon is stand in front of the car and person is locked so it would be easy to do whatever to that driver. The car could be shut down if you’re “out of bounds” or you could be required to stay in certain area. Electricity goes out or grid problems you’re done. There will be more car hacks. Problems associated with self driving. If you’re car throws a code it’ll be shut down till it’s serviced by the “correct” facility.
Just so much stupid s*** involved. I don’t mind driving my recycled s***, I think it’s more green to do that and keep rigs for years then replace every year because the new one has a bigger lcd screen. Lotta people don’t even test drive s*** anymore they simply call and order their new cars. I’m not going to be one of those clowns all excited about my car driving itself, I like driving and I like working in things, that’ll be the past to tell our grandchildren about, the good ol days.
Just the opinion from a good ol hard working backwoods American hick.

You nailed a lot of issues most have not even thought about.

 

[CumminsPusher]

You nailed a lot of issues most have not even thought about.

Oh but it’ll be fine...just gotta conform and get with the times right?

 

[Bruce4795]

The other engineering aspect that escapes most politicians is that as the size of the solar or wind farm increases to provide more annual contribution, the curve is not linear. As an example, if Joe puts in a 100 square foot solar array and gets say 20% of his annual energy provided by solar, if he doubles the field size to 200 SF, he may indeed get 40% of his energy by the solar farm. Thinking this is great, Joe now doubles the field size to 400 SF expecting 80% contribution. Joe is surprised to find that he is only getting 60% this time. Thinking this is an fluke, he now goes for an 800 SF array and his annual solar contribution is now 70%.
okay, this real world example happens because as the solar or wind farm size increases there are fewer and fewer days when the larger field is needed. The solar field has satisfied the load easily and charged the batteries and shuts off by noon. The only days where the much larger field size is needed are extreme weather events that don’t happen as often, so you end up chasing a much less frequent event at huge cost increases for the larger field sizes. Of course you have to add in the days when there is no wind or sun, maintenance, etc. So, these alternative energy systems are fine if used in an appropriate manner, but the notion that they can provide power all the time with no other sources is a huge error in not understanding the underlying engineering.

 

[SLOWPOKE693]

This meme is fitting here.....

 

[CumminsPusher]

This meme is fitting here.....

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Bhahahaha. If someone can’t see agenda with that, they are being trained by a few correctly.

 

[SLOWPOKE693]

The company I work for is indirectly involved in wind farm construction and I get to visit these sites frequently. If the tree huggers could see the amount of fossil fuel being consumed on one of those jobsites to erect these precious green energy makers their minds would be blown. I'm not even talking about making them or transporting the pieces to the sites.....

 

[Gold-digger]

The other engineering aspect that escapes most politicians is that as the size of the solar or wind farm increases to provide more annual contribution, the curve is not linear. As an example, if Joe puts in a 100 square foot solar array and gets say 20% of his annual energy provided by solar, if he doubles the field size to 200 SF, he may indeed get 40% of his energy by the solar farm. Thinking this is great, Joe now doubles the field size to 400 SF expecting 80% contribution. Joe is surprised to find that he is only getting 60% this time. Thinking this is an fluke, he now goes for an 800 SF array and his annual solar contribution is now 70%.
okay, this real world example happens because as the solar or wind farm size increases there are fewer and fewer days when the larger field is needed. The solar field has satisfied the load easily and charged the batteries and shuts off by noon. The only days where the much larger field size is needed are extreme weather events that don’t happen as often, so you end up chasing a much less frequent event at huge cost increases for the larger field sizes. Of course you have to add in the days when there is no wind or sun, maintenance, etc. So, these alternative energy systems are fine if used in an appropriate manner, but the notion that they can provide power all the time with no other sources is a huge error in not understanding the underlying engineering.

Joe then realized that his solar panels now have a inch of snow on them and they don't work at all during the winter and during the summer his panels get covered by dust and the only get 40 % power out of them. So now joe has to climb up on the roof to clean off his panels and Falls off the roof and dies. So now his wife Kamala thinks she will put in wind turbines to cover the extra power she needs the first year they get a freeze during the winter with snow the wind turbines freezes up and won't turn and the solar panels have snow on them she now has now electricity all her food goes bad and she cant eat and since she has no power to pump water out of the ground she cant drank and she dies 3 days later.

 

[bjniceguy]

plus her wind turbine killed all the birds too lol

 

[1HasBeen]

The company I work for is indirectly involved in wind farm construction and I get to visit these sites frequently. If the tree huggers could see the amount of fossil fuel being consumed on one of those jobsites to erect these precious green energy makers their minds would be blown. I'm not even talking about making them or transporting the pieces to the sites.....

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Oh, and here I thought they grew from seeds. No-till, organic, of course. And vegan, to boot!

 

[Mkmcdnl]

The peoples Socialist Republic of California does stupid chit all the time, so it doesn't surprise me that they would enforce something like that on there people! True to there form of a Socialist republic. Just sayin!

the best thing you can do is move out of Cali. And hope an earthquake causes it to fall in the Ocean. Not a fan of promoting Stupid .

 

[Remington]

the best thing you can do is move out of Cali. And hope an earthquake causes it to fall in the Ocean. Not a fan of promoting Stupid .

I was hoping wed keep building the wall around cali too! Lol but the earthquake deal isnt a bad idea either

 

[LarryAmboy]

You sure about that or are you basing it off the "science" the government is offering up?

This was the DFW area over the last few days...
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And the kooks will say it;s caused by global warming. If it’s hot, it;s global warming. If its cold it;s global warming. Everything is global warming (forgot, they changed it to “climate change”). There have been periods of both tropical and ice age through out world history. Thing Mastodons in Siberia and Alaska. Much of the Western United States was an inland sea on the past. Look at the fossil record.

One indisputable fact is that the worlds climate has ALWAYS changed since the beginning of time. No one has to really been able to prove with undisputed certainty that the change is man made. There are an equal number of scientists on both side. It;s not worth destroying lives and livelihoods base on the politics of fear.

This is all about money, fear and people control.

I spent 6.5 years working in Sweden and Finland at the artic circle and my friends there would tell you they are looking forward to a bit of warming.


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[Jaybee1013]

Please refer me to this "science" you speak of so I can be enlightened..... Climate change is a normal thing that occurs on earth over a period of time and has nothing to do with anything man made. Humans were not around during the prehistoric era and yet everything died off. How does your science explain that away?

Not looking to argue, but it's seems everyone that's into the global warming and climate change BS bases their beliefs on a bunch of made up science that is full of holes that can be disproven with actual facts.

By the way...... The earth isn't flat either. Sorry to disappoint you. 🤣

Not to disappoint anyone but the prehistoric era ended in theory because of a meteor strike.
there is much information about climate change and human effects relating to it if anyone is interested. Do you think Bill Gates would be investing millions and millions of dollars into a hoax?

 

[LarryAmboy]

People just don’t get it. The electricity needed does have to come fro somewhere. The car still needs to be built. The batteries still have to come from somewhere. It ain’t magic.
to replace an already existing rig to a new electric one is imo not helping. To have a set date on when gas won’t be allowed really puts a hurt on a lot of people. Gas will go up and it’ll be done to force bs agenda. Anyone that has a gas powered car now has 0 equity and is forced to basically buy new, it takes under 1/2 the manual labor to build electric so those are out of work, any mom/pop repair place is out of business, most other repair shops as well. Be a lot of people out if business. Lotta cars to throw away as well.
Electric cars don’t require as much maintenance but it’ll become much more specialized so the consumer will wind up having to pay more strictly dealer. Things will be much more replace then repair, and if I’ve learned ANYTHING in the business it’s that not only is technology it’s far more expensive down the road and effects resale huge. Diesel trucks are one example, high end European cars another, a f***ing 1500$ taillight when an led goes out is another so people are very wary of used technology and the price suffers. Batteries when the car has many miles on it will prove to be scary and only the well off will be ok with something new. A backyard hardworking guy is done.
Lube shops are done as well. And same with performance or custom installed items, now you just call up manufacture with credit card and crap that was there you just pay extra for, but at a massive premium. It’ll become impossible and illegal to mess with anything not to mention so integrated that you can’t. But that integration will cost you up front, during the life of the rig and resale value.
Some things won’t be able to be reproduced on electricity but that’s stuff the left doesn’t do so it’s no matter.
Then you simply talk about control, it’ll be real hard to be in situation where you need to push people out of your way or the likes of if it came down to it. All you need to do soon is stand in front of the car and person is locked so it would be easy to do whatever to that driver. The car could be shut down if you’re “out of bounds” or you could be required to stay in certain area. Electricity goes out or grid problems you’re done. There will be more car hacks. Problems associated with self driving. If you’re car throws a code it’ll be shut down till it’s serviced by the “correct” facility.
Just so much stupid s*** involved. I don’t mind driving my recycled s***, I think it’s more green to do that and keep rigs for years then replace every year because the new one has a bigger lcd screen. Lotta people don’t even test drive s*** anymore they simply call and order their new cars. I’m not going to be one of those clowns all excited about my car driving itself, I like driving and I like working in things, that’ll be the past to tell our grandchildren about, the good ol days.
Just the opinion from a good ol hard working backwoods American hick.

But a wise one, even if you do drive a Dodge


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[LarryAmboy]

The company I work for is indirectly involved in wind farm construction and I get to visit these sites frequently. If the tree huggers could see the amount of fossil fuel being consumed on one of those jobsites to erect these precious green energy makers their minds would be blown. I'm not even talking about making them or transporting the pieces to the sites.....

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And the impact to the environment ......


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[CumminsPusher]

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Not to disappoint anyone but the prehistoric era ended in theory because of a meteor strike.
there is much information about climate change and human effects relating to it if anyone is interested. Do you think Bill Gates would be investing millions and millions of dollars into a hoax?

Maybe you should’ve saved the planet and bought a golf cart rather then the Pioneer. I hear those things have viscous off road ability good enough for some and they run on clean free energy.

 

[LarryAmboy]

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Not to disappoint anyone but the prehistoric era ended in theory because of a meteor strike.
there is much information about climate change and human effects relating to it if anyone is interested. Do you think Bill Gates would be investing millions and millions of dollars into a hoax?

140 years of data.....

The world is how old?

Humans have inhabited it since when?

Your commitment is What? Have you got rid of all energy consumption? Are you using appliances that use CFC’s?

This would be a good place for all concerned with “climate change” to start. Maybe you can get John Kerry to stop flying his private jet and Al Gore to disconnect the power from his 13,000 sq. Ft. House. In the meantime y’all are all hypocrites.

It;s all about money, fear and people control


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[toddvdh]

Let’s just say the earth is 4.5 billion years old. It’s actually older that that because that’s the first rock found.

140 years of days is 0.00000003% of time. That less than the blink of an eye in the earth’s timeline.

they say a plastic bottle takes 400 years to break down to nothing like it’s a long time. Again, less than the blink of an eye in a planets timeline.

That being said, I do believe we are making the earth ugly. And possibly no livable for humans if we keep doing more and more nuclear power, but maybe that’s a good thing.

 

[1HasBeen]

That chart is a good example of the saying, "Figures don't lie, but liars figure". You can make a data set dance the watusi.

 

[SLOWPOKE693]

That chart is a good example of the saying, "Figures don't lie, but liars figure". You can make a data set dance the watusi.

Yup