P1000 First change of original air filter/cleaner for '21 P1K-3

[Bombardier Convert]

After 1550 miles on this ride from new, I figured it was time to check/change the air filter. When the old one came out I put it up to the daylight and could barely see any light through it so I am glad I did it! I replaced it with the OEM replacement and rubber 0 rings. It seemed like the larger new rubber 0 ring was a bit to large as no matter how I tried I couldn't get it in without it buckling. So I ended up cutting about an inch out and it seemed to be a good fit. I was wondering if anyone has had a similar experience?

 

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[Robobrainiac]

I have almost 2000 miles on my 20 and I haven't even checked mine yet

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[TripleB]

After 1550 miles on this ride from new, I figured it was time to check/change the air filter. When the old one came out I put it up to the daylight and could barely see any light through it so I am glad I did it! I replaced it with the OEM replacement and rubber 0 rings. It seemed like the larger new rubber 0 ring was a bit to large as no matter how I tried I couldn't get it in without it buckling. So I ended up cutting about an inch out and it seemed to be a good fit. I was wondering if anyone has had a similar experience?

I've changed my air filter at 4k, 8k and 13k and never replaced the o ring. The first time I started to and could see it was gonna be a little bit longer. Then I read on here that people were only replacing it if it was damaged.
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[Bombardier Convert]

Maybe I will just keep this 1550 mile filter as a spare.. but when I put it up to the sunlight or a bright light it's like it is plugged.. but then I didn't put the new one up to a light to compare.. when I got this apart it almost looked like there were NO "0 rings" at all, they were almost compressed flat. The hex head bolts were on extremely tight.

 

[HondaTech]

Maybe I will just keep this 1550 mile filter as a spare.. but when I put it up to the sunlight or a bright light it's like it is plugged.. but then I didn't put the new one up to a light to compare.. when I got this apart it almost looked like there were NO "0 rings" at all, they were almost compressed flat. The hex head bolts were on extremely tight.

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You cant see light through them,they are oiled paper. Id have thrown that back in.

 

[Bombardier Convert]

You cant see light through them,they are oiled paper. Id have thrown that back in.

Good to know Honda Tech! Thanks!

 

[TripleB]

Maybe I will just keep this 1550 mile filter as a spare.. but when I put it up to the sunlight or a bright light it's like it is plugged.. but then I didn't put the new one up to a light to compare.. when I got this apart it almost looked like there were NO "0 rings" at all, they were almost compressed flat. The hex head bolts were on extremely tight.

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I thought the same thing about the o rings. I had to reach in with a screwdriver to confirm they were there.

 

[CID]

Maybe I will just keep this 1550 mile filter as a spare.. but when I put it up to the sunlight or a bright light it's like it is plugged.. but then I didn't put the new one up to a light to compare.. when I got this apart it almost looked like there were NO "0 rings" at all, they were almost compressed flat. The hex head bolts were on extremely tight.

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If you can see through it, dirt can get through it. That filter is damn near new.

This one is nearing replacement. (someone's Talon)

 

[Bombardier Convert]

Thanks for all the replies and especially with pictures! Everything to do with this machine as far as maintenance is concerned is a learning experience. I am just trying to make a very expensive machine last as long as I can without having a major expensive repair that could have been avoided with good preventative care..

 

[Remington]

was wondering if anyone has had a similar experience?

Snorkel it with a pre filter and very rarely change that expensive beast!
Problem solved

 

[Bombardier Convert]

Snorkel it with a pre filter and very rarely change that expensive beast!
Problem solved

Yes I checked out that oem pre filter also yesterday and I don't even know how it could be called a filter? More like a minnow net! Haha!

 

[HondaTech]

Yes I checked out that oem pre filter also yesterday and I don't even know how it could be called a filter? More like a minnow net! Haha!

If a "pre" filter is doing all the filtering it's not a "pre" filter it's became the main filter.

The stock pre filter is there to catch big chunks first

 

[Remington]

Yes I checked out that oem pre filter also yesterday and I don't even know how it could be called a filter? More like a minnow net! Haha!

Yeah, take that out and give it to the ole lady for her loofer sponge or whatever they call it. Its useless.

I mean a real snorkel in its place. Theres tons on here of what many have done. I wont tell u to search, u know how 😂
I recently got a dust filter for my snorkel. Might be in my p1 build.
That rig is in my garage at my cabin 3hrs north of here so i cant take any pics. Ill search and see if i can get u some

 

[Remington]

@Bombardier Convert
Heres a pic of mine with the new pre filter Im using. More details are in my build. post #750 or 80 somewhere in there lol

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[P1K5Dave]

I'd like to see a video of someone properly replacing that giant o-ring. I haven't replaced mine because I don't want to open a can of worms.

 

[Remington]

I'd like to see a video of someone properly replacing that giant o-ring. I haven't replaced mine because I don't want to open a can of worms.

Oh C’mon man! Its not that bad.
ive done it about 6 times before my snorkel. No Vidgea tho, didnt think it was that hard to have to make one 🤣

 

[P1K5Dave]

I can't envision how one would deal with the extra length. I'm sure it's not that hard, but I don't get it. I figured I'd wind up cutting it like dude did, so instead I just gave the old one an inspection.

 

[CID]

I can't envision how one would deal with the extra length. I'm sure it's not that hard, but I don't get it. I figured I'd wind up cutting it like dude did, so instead I just gave the old one an inspection.

The mistake that's made IMO is that it's easy to stretch 'as you go'. If you know in advance that's a problem, you can work at keeping it compressed as you work your way around the perimeter. I'd start the o-ring in two places, 180* apart so I'd know how I was doing well before getting to the end.

You could even 'tack weld' it around the perimeter, like you would a replacement in a body panel, the more 'tacks', the less chance of stretching as you worked your way around.

 

[Bombardier Convert]

If a "pre" filter is doing all the filtering it's no a "pre" filter it's became the main filter.

The stock pre filter is there to catch big chunks first

Thanks for the input and I do understand what you are saying about the pre filter catching the big stuff first. I was just thinking I would rather see a stainless mesh screen there in place of or in addition to the loofah mainly to keep a mouse from getting up in there and chewing through it to nest?

 

[Bombardier Convert]

The mistake that's made IMO is that it's easy to stretch 'as you go'. If you know in advance that's a problem, you can work at keeping it compressed as you work your way around the perimeter. I'd start the o-ring in two places, 180* apart so I'd know how I was doing well before getting to the end.

You could even 'tack weld' it around the perimeter, like you would a replacement in a body panel, the more 'tacks', the less chance of stretching as you worked your way around.

We, my wife and I, tried a bunch of times to do what you said. Nope, couldn't make it work. Had to cut it. The original 0 rings were flattened out so much I didn't think they were even able to make a good seal again unless I reefed on tightening all the bolts.