P1000 FYI, Honda responce to heat problem

[oilslick]

Yep, total joke waiting for honda, they don't care. Life goes on,piss on honda for being non responsive low life. This is my latest opinion!

 

[Montecresto]

Yep, total joke waiting for honda, they don't care. Life goes on,piss on honda for being non responsive low life. This is my latest opinion!

I wouldn't take it to that extreme.

 

[Plongson]

It's taking Honda longer to figure out the heat issue than it took them to design the PK5. Certainly longer than the field testing.

 

[ToddACimer]

I think a lot of you would be impressed with the additional radiator air deflector from the 17 models. I agree the under seat heat sucks but with a heat shield it is a lot better and the dash heat becomes the bigger issue.

This radiator deflector stops almost all the hot air through the dash. The parts are #12 19071-HL4-F00 PLATE, AIR GUIDE and #13 19072-HL4-F00 RUBBER, AIR GUIDE. The parts are about $12 and take less than 2 hours to install


You can read about the install here.
P1000 - 2017 Radiator Air Deflector

 

[Montecresto]

I think a lot of you would be impressed with the additional radiator air deflector from the 17 models. I agree the under seat heat sucks but with a heat shield it is a lot better and the dash heat becomes the bigger issue.

This radiator deflector stops almost all the hot air through the dash. The parts are #12 19071-HL4-F00 PLATE, AIR GUIDE and #13 19072-HL4-F00 RUBBER, AIR GUIDE. The parts are about $12 and take less than 2 hours to install
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You can read about the install here.
P1000 - 2017 Radiator Air Deflector

Awesome, thanks for posting that. Just as with Honda's remedy for the wheels splashing water into the intake, this factory modification designed to reduce their heat problem, should be provided to the early model customers at no charge.

 

[ToddACimer]

Awesome, thanks for posting that. Just as with Honda's remedy for the wheels splashing water into the intake, this factory modification designed to reduce their heat problem, should be provided to the early model customers at no charge.

I think with any vehicle platform, you get improvements over time. I'm not worried about the $25 spent on the intake change or the $12 spent on these parts because they give me piece of mind that they'll work and they were easy to make fit. I personally don't think any of the issues with the Pioneer are absolute deal breakers but these cheap add on features make it even better.

 

[Montecresto]

I think with any vehicle platform, you get improvements over time. I'm not worried about the $25 spent on the intake change or the $12 spent on these parts because they give me piece of mind that they'll work and they were easy to make fit. I personally don't think any of the issues with the Pioneer are absolute deal breakers but these cheap add on features make it even better.

I've seen nothing that's a deal breaker myself either, but mid stream Honda acknowledged that even when following the 10" rule, water was splashing into the intake (1000, not 700 or 500) and they had the engineers create a remedy for that. It's my opinion, and certainly not one that you have to share, that they should be sending those out to us as a matter of principle.

 

[CPope]

Just got off the phone again with another rep, first of all they called me a liar and said that no one told me to call back in 2 weeks which is not true. They also said that they don't have a date for the fix but are working on it. It looks like we are getting the run around again which doesn't sit well with me. I asked should I get a lawyer involved and he said to do what we got to do. My suggestion is for everyone on this forum to constantly call and be a thorn in their side until it is resolved.

 

[Montecresto]

Just got off the phone again with another rep, first of all they called me a liar and said that no one told me to call back in 2 weeks which is not true. They also said that they don't have a date for the fix but are working on it. It looks like we are getting the run around again which doesn't sit well with me. I asked should I get a lawyer involved and he said to do what we got to do. My suggestion is for everyone on this forum to constantly call and be a thorn in their side until it is resolved.

Unless you have suffered personal injury from the engine heat, I doubt that an attorney will do you any good. And threatening that probably killed your ability to talk to them any further. Yes, Honda should fix this design problem, and apparently, in perhaps a small way, they have addressed it on the 2017. I think us 16' model owners are stuck with self remedies for the heat.

 

[Longshot]

Hi guys,

New member here just wanted to thank you all for the info in thread. I also called Honda this week on I believe Aug 15 to voice my complaint with my new '16 3 seat. Got the same questions you guys did about riding conditions, clothing, and accessories.

I have tried a few other things to alleviate the center seat heat. I have the Honda roof and 2 piece windshield and have tried opening it, removing the top portion, and removing the bottom portion all separately. Removing the bottom portion gives the best result by far. But I mostly trail ride @ 40+ mph.

I am no engineer but it seems that the windshield is causing a low pressure or "draft" zone similar to the back of a semi and actually sucking air from the engine area in. So as stated by someone earlier I wonder if a "ram air" type duct would work if it could repressurise the area.

Sorry for the long post just thinking out loud but something I plan to try if I can find the time.

Again thanks for all the great info hopefully Honda does do right by us.

 

[JWB]

Hi guys,

New member here just wanted to thank you all for the info in thread. I also called Honda this week on I believe Aug 15 to voice my complaint with my new '16 3 seat. Got the same questions you guys did about riding conditions, clothing, and accessories.

I have tried a few other things to alleviate the center seat heat. I have the Honda roof and 2 piece windshield and have tried opening it, removing the top portion, and removing the bottom portion all separately. Removing the bottom portion gives the best result by far. But I mostly trail ride @ 40+ mph.

I am no engineer but it seems that the windshield is causing a low pressure or "draft" zone similar to the back of a semi and actually sucking air from the engine area in. So as stated by someone earlier I wonder if a "ram air" type duct would work if it could repressurise the area.

Sorry for the long post just thinking out loud but something I plan to try if I can find the time.

Again thanks for all the great info hopefully Honda does do right by us.

I don't have a P1000- I have a P500, and when I put the windshield on, it did the exact same thing- cause a negative pressure in the cab, sucking in heat and dust- severe dust.
I took all the enclosure stuff off, and I wear the gear now.
As far as the heat cooking the middle seat on the 1000's- Honda needs to fix the damn problem. Unfortunately Honda is a huge company, and although I'm fairly confident that they will make it right, they take forever to react to anything, unless it's life threatening.
I work for a Honda Marine dealer, and have seen them literally take years to address a known problem, but in the end it gets taken care of, even to the point of reimbursing money customers spent when they fixed it on their own.
Always seems like too little too late....

 

[jj88]

I'm going to offer up a different perspective. The heat issue for most has kind of been a blessing for us. 95% of our riding is above 10000 ft in the Colorado Rockies, and the heat issue has been kind of a nice problem to have, because many rides, even during hottest days in July or August, are at or below 50 degrees up there, we've been in snow many times in July or August, or very cold rain. I didn't have to add a aftermarket heater! I do put the heat insulation under the seat, when we are at lower altitudes, and yes it can at times get a bit warm, but that's usually my signal to stop, get out, have a beverage, take a break, eat a sandwich, whatever, and let it sit for a bit. Many times however, I have taken the insulation out, for the heat. I know that helps no one in the warmer regions, and I hope Honda can come up with a remedy for you sooner rather than later. But, for us, its been kind of a nice "option" to have.

 

[Smitty335]

I'm going to offer up a different perspective. The heat issue for most has kind of been a blessing for us. 95% of our riding is above 10000 ft in the Colorado Rockies, and the heat issue has been kind of a nice problem to have, because many rides, even during hottest days in July or August, are at or below 50 degrees up there, we've been in snow many times in July or August, or very cold rain. I didn't have to add a aftermarket heater! I do put the heat insulation under the seat, when we are at lower altitudes, and yes it can at times get a bit warm, but that's usually my signal to stop, get out, have a beverage, take a break, eat a sandwich, whatever, and let it sit for a bit. Many times however, I have taken the insulation out, for the heat. I know that helps no one in the warmer regions, and I hope Honda can come up with a remedy for you sooner rather than later. But, for us, its been kind of a nice "option" to have.

It's great in the winter here , summer not so good.

 

[Longshot]

Well I just got a call from my dealer and they told me Honda is sending them a "heat reduction kit" to be installed at no cost. He had never seen or heard anything about this so couldn't tell me anything about what it included or how long to install. I will update everyone with pics as soon as the kit is in.

Here's to hoping it's a legitimate fix and not just a bandaid!!!

 

[Longshot]

Well I just got a call from my dealer and they told me Honda is sending them a "heat reduction kit" to be installed at no cost. He had never seen or heard anything about this so couldn't tell me anything about what it included or how long to install. I will update everyone with pics as soon as the kit is in.

Here's to hoping it's a legitimate fix and not just a bandaid!!!

Forgot to mention I had called Honda on July 21st and August 15th and got no response from them. I called my dealer Aug 31st they said they didn't see a case from Honda so submitted one and here we are 1 day later and parts are on the way. I guess my point is as someone had mentioned before contact BOTH your dealer and Honda and make some noise.

 

[0860silverado]

Also remember - you have full doors and Rangers don't - take them off and report back

I took my doors off the minute I took mine home from the dealer. Literally never rode it with the doors on and trust me...the heat is definitely real. I can't imagine it being any worse with doors on! Good Lawd!!!! And yes, I have a Ranger. There is absolutely no heat that I've ever noticed coming from the seat or dash.

 

[CumminsPusher]

I took my doors off the minute I took mine home from the dealer. Literally never rode it with the doors on and trust me...the heat is definitely real. I can't imagine it being any worse with doors on! Good Lawd!!!! And yes, I have a Ranger. There is absolutely no heat that I've ever noticed coming from the seat or dash.

Unless it's on fire

 

[0860silverado]

Unless it's on fire

SMH

 

[moparornocar]

I just called my local dealer, they said as soon as I get the letter I can call and schedule an appointment to have it installed. Do I need to file a complaint in order to have the letter sent to me, or does every p1k owner get one?

 

[Longshot]

I just called my local dealer, they said as soon as I get the letter I can call and schedule an appointment to have it installed. Do I need to file a complaint in order to have the letter sent to me, or does every p1k owner get one?

I have read in another thread that it will be a service bulliten and only repaired if it is a complaint. So I wouldn't expect a letter unless you have a complaint on file.

I can't vouch for the credibility of where I read that cause I don't remember but it sure can't hurt to have a case file open.