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[Jshell3]

When shopping for snatch blocks, Do you purchase based on the weight limit of your winch on a single line pull? Or double it?
I own a Terra 45SR. Do I shop for a snatch block rated at least 4500 pounds? Or 9,000 pounds?
Is the Warn Epic 92097 rated at 5,000lbs a perfect match? Or go nuts with the 92188 rated at 12,000lbs?

I don't mind overkill, but there is a huge price difference between the 2.

HEY LOOK EVERYBODY... a real question.

@Neohio - In the world of off road snatch blocks, you would need double the work load of the winch if you're hooking it back to the same machine the winch is hooked to.
A safer way to say that, a snatch block is designed to decrease the work load on the line. If you hook it BACK to the winched vehicle, you're effectively doubling the pull on the line... SO a 4,000lb (2 ton) winch would require a 4 ton capable snatch block.

 

[Neohio]

HEY LOOK EVERYBODY... a real question.

@Neohio - In the world of off road snatch blocks, you would need double the work load of the winch if you're hooking it back to the same machine the winch is hooked to.
A safer way to say that, a snatch block is designed to decrease the work load on the line. If you hook it BACK to the winched vehicle, you're effectively doubling the pull on the line... SO a 4,000lb (2 ton) winch would require a 4 ton snatch block.

So keep putting the pennies aside and acquire the 12,000lb rated warn?
Actually, I will email warn and ask them as well. They have the smaller one under their atv/utv section. I will post what I know when I know.

Edit: I am going to go with what is on their website.
"PN 92097 Rated to 5,000 lbs. (2268 kg) winch capacity and under"

 

[Jshell3]

So keep putting the pennies aside and acquire the 12,000lb rated warn?
Actually, I will email warn and ask them as well. They have the smaller one under their atv/utv section. I will post what I know when I know.

Edit: I am going to go with what is on their website.
"PN 92097 Rated to 5,000 lbs. (2268 kg) winch capacity and under"

Amazon.com: KFI Products ATV-SB Snatch Block: Automotive
This Block has a 8,000lb load rating and 16,000lb effective Rating.
(and is the one I use w/ my Warn Vantage 4000-Synthetic)
Amazon.com: KFI Products ATV-SB Snatch Block: Automotive

(I stole this off a FAQ website)

I see both 8,000 lbs on the title and then 16,000 lbs the you select the item down below... which one is it??
Answer:
This block works with a winch that has a pulling force of up to 8,000 lbs. The 16,000 lb rating is there because when you pull with a block the pulling power of the winch is doubled thus doubling the force on the block. So pulling with a 8,000 lb winch in a block is pulling 16,000 lbs.

 

[elkaholic]

I have used this one for better than 20 years

Superwinch 7750A Pulley Block , 20,000 lb capacity, use with winches having maximum single line capacity of 10,000 lb Amazon.com: Superwinch 7750A Pulley Block , 20,000 lb capacity, use with winches having maximum single line capacity of 10,000 lb: Automotive

I had a snap ring fail and ordered better ones from McMaster. While waiting on the snap rings, I won one of these.

ARB ARB209 Snatch Block Amazon.com: ARB ARB209 Snatch Block: Automotive

For heavy pulls, this one is the cats meow with the greasable bushing


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[Tigermark]

Well then jump right in anywhere you want when you can. It doesn't matter. Us alcohol infused lunatics will standby. Oh, wait is that like being called a deplorable? That would be a good thing because I'm proud to be deplorable! OH Crap, was that being political? Now I've done it... I'm off topic and political.. I'm untrainable apparently

Now you've done it! You have both Joey an Jackal upset now I'll never graduate to a Club Contributor Oh well, I'd rather be with the alcohol infused lunatics anyway!

 

[drfubar]

Now you've done it! You have both Joey an Jackal upset now I'll never graduate to a Club Contributor Oh well, I'd rather be with the alcohol infused lunatics anyway!

Yeah, we have a whole lot more fun being infused and all. @JACKAL would be upset with @joeymt33 too. He gets infused now and then. And there's @sharp who gets infused and @CumminsPusher and @Manwell and @GlockMeister and @JTW and, well you get the picture. I'm sure there are a few hundred others on the forum who get infused. We are all deplorable @Tigermark! Oh, and sorry about the club contributor tag, it don't get you any more money per hour anyway..

 

[Tramguage1]

I need a Co2 inflator as well - I put all the components on an Amazon list just not 100% sure where I would get the tank filled around here - I am sure there is a local place.

Look for a place that deals in paintball stuff.

 

[drfubar]

Look for a place that deals in paintball stuff.

Air/Gas in Chattanooga fills and or trades tanks.. Might be one of those companies in your area too

 

[nbomar]

Let get the components to assemble the tanks , I'll find a place to get them filled.

I have one of the power tanks. The welding supply store at Wagon wheel is where I get mine filled. I don't carry it on the trail because its so big, but we can put it in the back of your rig when we ride together.

 

[Tigermark]

I have one of the power tanks. The welding supply store at Wagon wheel is where I get mine filled. I don't carry it on the trail because its so big, but we can put it in the back of your rig when we ride together.

That will be good to have with us if we have tire issues on the RVs.

 

[trigger]

Amazon.com: KFI Products ATV-SB Snatch Block: Automotive
This Block has a 8,000lb load rating and 16,000lb effective Rating.
(and is the one I use w/ my Warn Vantage 4000-Synthetic)
Amazon.com: KFI Products ATV-SB Snatch Block: Automotive

(I stole this off a FAQ website)

I see both 8,000 lbs on the title and then 16,000 lbs the you select the item down below... which one is it??
Answer:
This block works with a winch that has a pulling force of up to 8,000 lbs. The 16,000 lb rating is there because when you pull with a block the pulling power of the winch is doubled thus doubling the force on the block. So pulling with a 8,000 lb winch in a block is pulling 16,000 lbs.

That's the one I ordered too, will be here tomorrow.

 

[elkaholic]

That's the one I ordered too, will be here tomorrow.

If you are talking about the Superwinch one, look at the snap rings. I'll see if I have any spares. The replacements are metric and I had to order a pack of 10. It's been almost 10 years since I had the issue so I am not sure I can pay my fingers on them.

The block failed as I was putting it up after a 5 hour winch fest winching a 3 wheeled Jeep up trail 39 at Windrock - I guess at some point we put a side load on it. Two $1 snap rings and it was good to go!


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[Deleted member 3748]

Oh sure.... suck up so you'll get that "contributor badge". You can have mine. I don't think he wanted to give it to me anyway.. You moderator types all stick together.

How do you get a Contributor Badge? (Going off topic)

 

[nbomar]

That will be good to have with us if we have tire issues on the RVs.

Yea no doubt. It has 2000lbs of air in it so rv tires are easy breezy.


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[nbomar]

How do you get a Contributor Badge? (Going off topic)

Good question. I have no clue how to get any badges except the lifetime member. You buy that one.


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[Jshell3]

How do you get a Contributor Badge? (Going off topic)

Good question. I have no clue how to get any badges except the lifetime member. You buy that one.

Do a "How to write up" with pics

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[Deleted member 3748]

Do a "How to write up" with pics

See here---> WANTED, REWARD. - How-to's |Bounty List!

I've done several How Tos, plus this >>> P500 - Pioneer 500 Clutch Adjustment (Video)

 

[Deleted member 3748]

I'm starting to feel some 500 discrimination.

 

[ghost]

HEY LOOK EVERYBODY... a real question.

LMAO - now thats funny s***!

 

[JTW]

I covered 4900 miles across 17 States over the past 5 days, sorry I posted 6 hrs after Joey pointed it out. I have neither the time or inclination to go through every post of alcohol infused gibberish from lunatic minds.

Hoo yoo call'n a looo.. looooo... loooonatac????