P1000 Tried and true cab heat fixes-2018

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Rocker switch. It says its good for 20 amps. Which i believe from an earlier post from redfred1 who showed 10 amp fuse would be sufficient, should work fine. And would be easy to run from the battery, with an inline fuse (Right?). And yep, just two wires to the fan.
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But i still ran it thru a relay, for whatever reason.
Well the 8" fit. Dont have much time on it yet, So we'll see..
Hope this helps.

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Neat job for sure - even really clean too. What sized fan did you use, and how did you secure the fan inside the PVC pipe? I may copy your mounting technique. As long as you're describing some details, where did you put the switch (and switch type)? Sorry for the questions, but it really looks like a good job.
 
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Neat job for sure - even really clean too. What sized fan did you use, and how did you secure the fan inside the PVC pipe? I may copy your mounting technique. As long as you're describing some details, where did you put the switch (and switch type)? Sorry for the questions, but it really looks like a good job.
4" Attwood fan from Azon.
1 12 volt power wire from a spst switch with a 10 amp fuse. I have a dash switch box I used.
Glad to help.
 
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How much of a difference can you tell with the shield thing?
Stepping into your question, I make my own shield out of material from Amazon and it is certainly worth the effort. Our seat is not nearly so hot, but heat does come in behind the seat, and I working on that with some pipe insulation. You want to have some extra length at the back of the seat because that is where the heat comes in after installing the shield, but the shield is worthwhile for sure. Either "Dirtstiffs" bought a commercial shield, which are available, or he did one neat job of cutting out the shield. Mine is not so professional looking.
 
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I cut up a Walmart window sun shade in the picture, but beneath it is also dynamat heat shield material.
Works good.
I also put heat shield material on the back seat around the air filter box. Helped a bunch too.
 
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Stepping into your question, I make my own shield out of material from Amazon and it is certainly worth the effort. Our seat is not nearly so hot, but heat does come in behind the seat, and I working on that with some pipe insulation. You want to have some extra length at the back of the seat because that is where the heat comes in after installing the shield, but the shield is worthwhile for sure. Either "Dirtstiffs" bought a commercial shield, which are available, or he did one neat job of cutting out the shield. Mine is not so professional looking.




I cut up a Walmart window sun shade in the picture, but beneath it is also dynamat heat shield material.
Works good.
I also put heat shield material on the back seat around the air filter box. Helped a bunch too.

Thanks for the ideas. I order can mid panel and worried about the heat.
 
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4" Attwood fan from Azon.
1 12 volt power wire from a spst switch with a 10 amp fuse. I have a dash switch box I used.
Glad to help.
Just started looking into heat management.... you have a nice setup! Dumb Q, but is there any ducting involved or is the circulation from the fan doing all of the magic? Thanks!
 
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So, I used this thread and others to battle heat control in the cab. Here's what I did...

First was the Honda "fix" which included the rubber pieces (mine was updated right before I purchased it).

Next I added a layer of the foil insulation between the rubber and seat (not sure if that helped or not).

Then I added one 5.5 inch SPAL blower fan below the seat that is controlled by a Tusk dirt bike radiator fan control switch. The thermometer is mounted on the intake tube directly above the headers. The programable switch is mounted below the passenger seat, right between where the passenger legs would sit. I also installed an override switch on the dash.

The blower fan worked pretty good, but I honestly felt that all it was doing was creating "dirty" air beneath the seat; meaning that it was moving air, but it was very effective at exhausting the hot air. So, I picked up a 6 inch 90º PVC elbow, a flush mount (for a gutter drain) and mounted a second 5.5 inch puller SPAL fan in that. A little work with the Dremel and some epoxy worked nicely. I mounted the fan about 1 1/2 inches inside the topside of the elbow. I exited the wires through the top part of the elbow. I then mounted all of that to my skid plate, right near the header exhaust shield, beneath the rear passenger side entry plate (in front of the right rear wheel). I drilled about 10, 1/2 inch holes in the headed guard to aid in air flow. That fan was also then wired into the thermo-switch and override switch. To make it match, I used back petroleum dye (eBay for $10) to dye the PVC elbow black. It took about 6 coats to really soak in and turn black.

I keep the thermo-switch programmed for 140º.

Next I added the SPAL upgraded fan for the radiator to keep things cooler in front of the cab, since I figured a lot of that heat was blowing back. The factory fan is slow and sort of weak. The larger and more powerful fan moves a lot more air and at a faster rate.

I ordered up some Thermo Tec sound and heat insulation from Amazon and pulled all of the factory covering, and lined everything that touches the engine bay, or exhaust route. (PS: I was concerned on how that stuff would hold, but after pulling everything, cleaning it with alcohol and letting it al sit in the sun before installing...it has incredible hold! I was very impressed).

And finally, I installed a large black pipe insulation on the bed release bar. I had to get fancy with the razor knife to try and provide the most sung fit I could get without interfering with the dump beds operation, but it worked. I used heavy duty zip-ties to secure that.

Combined, it all made a HUGE difference in not only heat reduction, but sound. You don't hardly hear the engine and transmission from inside the cab. If anything, I really just hear the exhaust note now. Of all the mods/add-ons....the puller fan made the biggest difference. My speculation of the the blower fan simply dirtying the air up seemed to be correct. Before the puller fan was installed, it would take the pusher fan upwards of a minute to cool the engine bay enough to trip the switch off; sometimes it would just keep running if it was really warm outside. After installing the puller fan and duct, I haven't had it run consistently more than 15-20 seconds. If I'm sitting still, it'll only take 10-12 seconds to cool it down. You can still feel the seat belt area on the passenger side get warm to the touch, but nothing like it did when it was new.

It took a lot of time, but it was worth it in my opinion. Hope this helps!

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Just started looking into heat management.... you have a nice setup! Dumb Q, but is there any ducting involved or is the circulation from the fan doing all of the magic? Thanks!

No dumb questions.
Tomorrow actually, I'm going to add about 4-6' of 4" heavy ducting to a point beyond the headers.
My thought is the fan maybe just circulating hot air around, so I'm going to try exhausting the fan.
Others have tried with unsatisfactory result, but I'm a see for myself guy..hard headed more likely.
More to come if successful.
 
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For what it's worth, my exhaust fan made a a huge difference. But, not that my solution is 100% perfect, I think having the exhaust fan that moves with the air flow that the machine was designed to have will yield the best results. If you have an exhaust van with a duct pulling hot air forward to exhaust (such as the kit offered by DEI) the opposite direction that the naturally forced air is pushing through the engine bay, it's going to be less effective. The results, I feel, will only be worse if you have full skid plates that even further limit the air movement through the engine bay.

Ideally, I think a 4 inch exhaust fan mounted and ducted at the rear of the headers and engine bay near the bottom of the machine would have been the most effective (see the yellow circle on my image attache below). I didn't go this route because I had already ordered a 6 inch fan that simply wouldn't fit in that area. So, the 6 inch with a duct near the rear of the header was the next best choice. The 6 inch fan pulls a TON of air and with the aid of the 6inch pusher fan in front of the engine, it effectively exhaust the heated air. If anything, I'm tempted to cut more of the exhaust shield off in front of the fan to allow even more air flow.

I've attached a fee images of our chassis that helped me "see" how natural air flow would effect cooling.

Just my two cents.

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Best setup I've ever seen was two fans mounted overhead that blew your hair off at full wack.

Sort of loud though... 😁
 
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No dumb questions.
Tomorrow actually, I'm going to add about 4-6' of 4" heavy ducting to a point beyond the headers.
My thought is the fan maybe just circulating hot air around, so I'm going to try exhausting the fan.
Others have tried with unsatisfactory result, but I'm a see for myself guy..hard headed more likely.
More to come if successful.
So,
I added about a 1.5 - 2' of insulated duct, only because the angle of my bilge wouldn't allow going under the header, with out modifying the bilge mount.

So I ended up discharging just at the base of the manifold at a 90 degree down angle.

Honestly on today's ride as the copilot, I COULD definately feel a noticeable reduction in the passenger back seat temperature with the fan on and ducted 90 degrees down.

I have a thermometer in the buggy but never thought about looking at it. Doubt it be a degree or 2.
Ya, I think it was worth the effort.
 
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For what it's worth, my exhaust fan made a a huge difference. But, not that my solution is 100% perfect, I think having the exhaust fan that moves with the air flow that the machine was designed to have will yield the best results. If you have an exhaust van with a duct pulling hot air forward to exhaust (such as the kit offered by DEI) the opposite direction that the naturally forced air is pushing through the engine bay, it's going to be less effective. The results, I feel, will only be worse if you have full skid plates that even further limit the air movement through the engine bay.

Ideally, I think a 4 inch exhaust fan mounted and ducted at the rear of the headers and engine bay near the bottom of the machine would have been the most effective (see the yellow circle on my image attache below). I didn't go this route because I had already ordered a 6 inch fan that simply wouldn't fit in that area. So, the 6 inch with a duct near the rear of the header was the next best choice. The 6 inch fan pulls a TON of air and with the aid of the 6inch pusher fan in front of the engine, it effectively exhaust the heated air. If anything, I'm tempted to cut more of the exhaust shield off in front of the fan to allow even more air flow.

I've attached a fee images of our chassis that helped me "see" how natural air flow would effect cooling.

Just my two cents.

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My thoughts on this and test I have and am running. Thanks for the pics.

 
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I’m trying to do the bilge fan too but this is in the way. Any ideas on what to do or what it is? It’s a 2020

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I’m trying to do the bilge fan too but this is in the way. Any ideas on what to do or what it is? It’s a 2020

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Hmm. My 2018 Deluxe does not have that. Is yours an LE by chance? Or possible a California green sticker model? Almost looks like another emissions piece.
 
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Hmm. My 2018 Deluxe does not have that. Is yours an LE by chance? Or possible a California green sticker model? Almost looks like another emissions piece.
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