Whats the best winch out there for the Honda Pioneer?

[joeymt33]

Really?? How’s it getting water in it?

Don’t know how. I do know that the white one hasn’t been in half as much water as the red one and the red pioneer has two warn winches, so double the opportunity.

I haven’t been impressed because of the noise and seal issues. Maybe I got a bad one? Idk. The terra45 seems to be strong and definitely uses less amps to power it, I tested that for myself with a DC clamp meter.

 

[JTW]

Don’t know how. I do know that the white one hasn’t been in half as much water as the red one and the red pioneer has two warn winches, so double the opportunity.

I haven’t been impressed because of the noise and seal issues. Maybe I got a bad one? Idk. The terra45 seems to be strong and definitely uses less amps to power it, I tested that for myself with a DC clamp meter.

Dunno.. less draw isn’t exactly a good thing. We’ll compare noise next ride. Did you test yours under load with the amp clamp? I’ll try that. You’ve got me curious now..

 

[joeymt33]

Dunno.. less draw isn’t exactly a good thing. We’ll compare noise next ride. Did you test yours under load with the amp clamp? I’ll try that. You’ve got me curious now..

Both my warns (PV4500 & Honda 4000) pull over 300 amps at stall. The terra 45 pulled just under 200 like advertised. I couldn’t believe it. Not sure what the difference is. Maybe they have a better motor? Different gearing? I never looked that deep.

 

[ohanacreek]

Both my warns (PV4500 & Honda 4000) pull over 300 amps at stall. The terra 45 pulled just under 200 like advertised. I couldn’t believe it. Not sure what the difference is. Maybe they have a better motor? Different gearing? I never looked that deep.

Viper 4500 pulls around 290 when it stalls out, long enough pulls and it will heat up the breaker and trip it.

 

[djracer]

I have a Badlands 5000 on my P1000 and it has been flawless so far! I have a buddie who killed a warn and replaced it with a Badlands 3500 on a 900 crew cab rzr.

 

[joeymt33]

I have a Badlands 5000 on my P1000 and it has been flawless so far! I have a buddie who killed a warn and replaced it with a Badlands 3500 on a 900 crew cab rzr.

I put a Badlands winch in my enclosed trailer and on a flatbed trailer. They don’t get used much but always work good when I go to use them.

 

[Vikes79]

On flat ground yes but remember, 3x3x3 of wet dirt weights about 3000-4000 lbs so if it’s holding on, a dbl line on a 4500 might not be enough. I was stuck so bad I had my viper 4500 Dbl lined and I was dragging a 1500 Crew and an Explorer Sport. Granted that was on wet dirt but I had to get a mini-ex to get me out.

Great point to consider as well. I underestimated the weight of a pioneer in my previous comment. I thought it was closer to 1000lbs. Needless to say I’m surprised that’s actually closer to 1600 lbs!

With that said I’d still stay with a 4-5K winch for fear of bending the pioneer frame.

 

[TimG]

I used my warn vantage 4000 to lift my p1k3 straight up by a tree branch when I would wash it. I've winched several times in tough spots without issue. I guess I never felt like I was lacking winch power...i think you'll be fine.

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That's what I wanted to hear. If the winch will lift your sxs it's probably going to serve you well on the trail.

 

[sporttrac4x4]

KFI Stealth 4500 with synthetic rope. No problems yet. Had it for 2 years.

 

[BWAF]

Warn 4500 love it but should have went with the synthetic rope anybody ever switch one over to synthetic

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[ohanacreek]

Warn 4500 love it but should have went with the synthetic rope anybody ever switch one over to synthetic

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just swap rope and fairlead to a smooth one that hasnt had wire rope run across it(burrs will tear the synth up) and no rollers they will pinch the synth rope.

You can get both on amazon for about $50

 

[CumminsPusher]

Warn 4500 love it but should have went with the synthetic rope anybody ever switch one over to synthetic

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What Ohana said. Also look for any burrs or scratches on the spool especially the sides. All that needs to be smooth.
It’s cheaper usually to buy a winch with cable an convert it.

 

[BWAF]

just swap rope and fairlead to a smooth one that hasnt had wire rope run across it(burrs will tear the synth up) and no rollers they will pinch the synth rope.

You can get both on amazon for about $50

Do you put same length back on it .

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[ohanacreek]

Do you put same length back on it .

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See if the model you have has an equal with synth and you should be able to go off of that, if not as long as the diameter is the same, the same length should fit.

 

[joeymt33]

Do you put same length back on it .

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I just changed out my ropes after being on the machine for almost a couple years just in case one breaks and I’m in a bad situation. I don’t mind if it breaks and I’m stuck in a mudhole but I don’t want one failing while pulling up a rock face.

I’ve used those Amazon 1/4” ropes and they’ve been great. They’re $24.



I put the used ones on my utility trailers.

 

[BWAF]

I just changed out my ropes after being on the machine for almost a couple years just in case one breaks and I’m in a bad situation. I don’t mind if it breaks and I’m stuck in a mudhole but I don’t want one failing while pulling up a rock face.

I’ve used those Amazon 1/4” ropes and they’ve been great. They’re $24.

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I put the used ones on my utility trailers.

Thanks

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[djracer]

i converted my Badlands 5000 to an Amazon synthetic rope and aluminum fairlead from them as well.

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[joeymt33]

I ended up getting this one to match. I’m sure they are over priced but I saved plenty on the ropes. They seem durable even though @CumminsPusher broke one.

 

[CumminsPusher]

I ended up getting this one to match. I’m sure they are over priced but I saved plenty on the ropes. They seem durable even though @CumminsPusher broke one.

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Good rule of “thumb” never have your fingers near that area while someone else is on the button especially my wife after a couple beers

 

[joeymt33]

Good rule of “thumb” never have your fingers near that area while someone else is on the button especially my wife after a couple beers

That’s what I finished it off but it was already cracked from hitting that big rock!