P1000 Has anyone had they're brakes fail?

[JTW]

sorry @JTW I don't recall getting a notification for this post, so just now seeing it. I'll try to get some pics for you this evening.

No problem.. I appreciate it. I just ordered the manual line lock from Amazon.

Amazon.com: EMPI 3155 EMPI HYDRAULIC PARK LOCK, VW VOLKSWAGEN SAND RAIL, BAJA, DUNE BUGGY: Automotive

On a different note.. are you running the snorkel thru the hood like Joey?

 

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[PioneerPete]

No problem.. I appreciate it. I just ordered the manual line lock from Amazon.

Amazon.com: EMPI 3155 EMPI HYDRAULIC PARK LOCK, VW VOLKSWAGEN SAND RAIL, BAJA, DUNE BUGGY: Automotive

On a different note.. are you running the snorkel thru the hood like Joey?

yes, I'm planning to do the hood snorkel

 

[Smitty335]

Mine did it and I found a leak on the back driver side the bolt that holds the brake line on was leaking I had to tighten it then bleed the bakes.

You guys use brakes? Is that what the pedal left of the gas pedal is? HA! I really don't use the brake much, probable air though.

 

[joeymt33]

You guys use brakes? Is that what the pedal left of the gas pedal is? HA! I really don't use the brake much, probable air though.

Haha, only as a last resort should you touch the left pedal.

 

[SundayRdr]

I was wondering about that.. why?

I would use manual vs electronic also. I have installed an electric & manual one on F350 superduty's with manual trans. The manual one will hold after a week were the electronic one bleeds off over nite.

 

[JTW]

I would use manual vs electronic also. I have installed an electric & manual one on F350 superduty's with manual trans. The manual one will hold after a week were the electronic one bleeds off over nite.

Don't fool yourself into thinking the manual line locks can't or don't fail!!

 

[SundayRdr]

Don't fool yourself into thinking the manual line locks can't or don't fail!!

Everything has failures, the manual doesn't require 12V to work. You pump the brakes and twist, push, pull or flip a lever and there it is. Electronic one, wire rubs against the bulk head and pops a fuse or a stick, a foot, what ever gets hung up on a loose wire and rips it out of the solenoid or switch. Now your SOL unless you manage to repair it or have spare fuses.

 

[JTW]

Everything has failures, the manual doesn't require 12V to work. You pump the brakes and twist, push, pull or flip a lever and there it is. Electronic one, wire rubs against the bulk head and pops a fuse or a stick, a foot, what ever gets hung up on a loose wire and rips it out of the solenoid or switch. Now your SOL unless you manage to repair it or have spare fuses.

I don't disagree.. that's why I went with the manual lock. I'm just saying... watch them! All of his is beside the point... they damn things need a freak'n mechanical emergency brake!

 

[Everett]

I have changed the fluid to racing fluid with a higher boiling point hopefully it will help. I will be going back to Colorado in about a week. I just hope the brakes work this time. It's not good when they fail in them passes.

 

[popeye]

I have changed the fluid to racing fluid with a higher boiling point hopefully it will help. I will be going back to Colorado in about a week. I just hope the brakes work this time. It's not good when they fail in them passes.

Did you notfind any loose fittings? Just gonna change the fluid?

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[Everett]

Did you notfind any loose fittings? Just gonna change the fluid?

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No there were no loose fittings. I just changed the fluid and will try it out in a few weeks. I only have problem at high altitude. I checked with some friends that race at high altitude and they suggested the high boiling point fluid. Honda told me they don't test these things over 10000 feet. So they were no help. I just hope it don't happen agin.

 

[Ice]

I was on Mt Antero last weekend at about 12000 ft coming down when my brakes went to the floor. Had to pump brake pedal four times before pedal came back. This happened twice in a short time then they worked good again. It was not a good time for this to happen. If it would have happened a few minutes earlier we would not be here. I'm going to talk to Honda about this in the morning. This is not a good thing since these do not have a emergency brake to fall back on. When this happened we had no brakes at all on a real steep grade and hairpin switchbacks with several thousand ft drop off. I'm just reporting this so hopefully everyone can be prepared if you have this happen. Will report back on this issue after I talk to Honda. Hopefully they replace master cylinder. I checked for leaks but all looked good.

Mine fail once in a while to I have 625 miles on now and when rideing high speed trails go to grab the brakes they get real mushy till you pump it twice then ok but doesn't do it all the time been watching the fluid level and all is good.

 

[JTW]

Mine did this in April at the Takeover after I broke an axle. Hasn’t done it sense.. not sure what to make of it now.

 

[mcho]

Manual or 12V makes no difference if you have no pressure to start with when it comes to line locks. What we need is an emergency break. Thank you. mcho

 

[timl1641]

I was on Mt Antero last weekend at about 12000 ft coming down when my brakes went to the floor. Had to pump brake pedal four times before pedal came back. This happened twice in a short time then they worked good again. It was not a good time for this to happen. If it would have happened a few minutes earlier we would not be here. I'm going to talk to Honda about this in the morning. This is not a good thing since these do not have a emergency brake to fall back on. When this happened we had no brakes at all on a real steep grade and hairpin switchbacks with several thousand ft drop off. I'm just reporting this so hopefully everyone can be prepared if you have this happen. Will report back on this issue after I talk to Honda. Hopefully they replace master cylinder. I checked for leaks but all looked good.

What you experienced was brake fade caused by the fluid boiling. Your changing the fluid to a high temp will definitely help. make sure you are not riding the pedal which is easy to do on steep downs, also make sure you don't a caliper dragging causing heat. if you have larger tires, they require more brake to stop equating to more heat. myself I you the trans to engine brake as much as possible, there are a few hills which brakes are a must but I don't attempt to run down them with too much speed, start heading down slow and don't let your speed get to fast, requires more brake to bleed the speed off creating too much heat.

 

[GPR1500SC]

Heat would be my guess for the failure.
When I was getting towed off Flag Mountain by my buddies Ranger I got them hot from trying to keep the tow strap tight to the point there was little brakes at all it went from good brakes to no brakes so fast I did not even notice it happening until they where gone.

That was high altitude which would have lowered the boiling point also, I let them cool down and they are as good as they ever where.