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Talon Honda Talon 1000 First Ride Review - Sand Hollow Utah.

Discussion in 'Talon 1000 Reviews' started by Hondasxs, Mar 13, 2019.

  1. Andrew

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    I agree with everything you said however my question is more along the lines of not bottoming out but the difference between r and x of just how soft it is before you bottom out. I've watched every review video possible. Sxs Blog guys seemed to like the x suspension but they did say it was firm which is why it handles so flat. They also said the r has a little more body roll which makes me wonder if the r has a softer ride overall. Maybe due to it being a true dual rate spring setup with crossover ring. I was hoping @Hondasxs mightve noticed a difference while he test drove both. Btw i hope im explaing myself well.
     
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    I felt the R was for more straight shot riding. There is no doubt it kicked ass in the whoops, fast riding and wide open trails with room to spare. I was surprised that it overshot some turns that I felt it should have handled. I have steering stops in my Pioneer stops so my turning radius is above standard but the R was still far off from that. The R performed very nice at high speed. I felt it did best at high speeds.

    The X did well at high speeds too. In fact, it handled them great too. It really got to me the difference in cornering and how I was able to steer the X around so much easier. We did several figure 8 loops around a rock and sand bowl and that's when I could feel the difference.

    Where I ride, we enjoy the trails, a dirt road for the R is not my style.
    For the mud crew, the R may be the unit of choice as they tend to want wide and tall but for the trail riders that enjoy technical challenges other then straight up, the X is going to be the choice.
     
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    The R most definitely had a softer ride. If your looking for a super plush ride the R is worth a hard look. The X was a bit stiffer but compared to the Pioneer they both were huge improvements. As for bottoming out, I can't say we did on either machine except for the "exciting" part of my review and I really don't think the R would have handled the jump any better as we were fairly high ass end up.
     
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    The jerkiness that a broke in Pioneer has on the throttle is still there, especially in low gear. It's so responsive to the throttle it almost could be a concern. One thing is for sure. When you mash it, it goes. Snap, snap, snap through the gears. I was well impressed with the DCT improvements. As for being in H and gearchange, there was an improvement over the Pioneer. It was smooth and in AT mode was almost seamless. In sport mode, I think it's designed to give you that oomph of a clutch style system.

    Our rigs were at OEM specs on tire pressure. R @ 16, X @ 14 psi. I do think a wider footprint would have helped.
     
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    The R would do great in Marysvale.
     
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    #28 Ragnar406, Mar 22, 2019
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  9. CumminsPusher

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    Probably going to be a 2020 Talon for me for a few reasons; to see what everyone’s opinion is of the two models, let Big H iron any wrinkles out, and for Big H and the aftermarket to add any widgets like they did for the P1000 after year 1. The Pioneer will do just fine for another year, if Big h doesn’t make any worthy changes I’ll see if I can maybe find a left over 2019.
     
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    If the Good Lord is willing, I have hopes of shooting for 2021 Talon.
     
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    Great review. Thanks for the details and answering follow up questions. I just went to see one in person and feel the fit and finish are very nice. I'm 6'4" (mostly legs) and while tight I fit just fine. I ride So Cal desert and it seems power might be on the lower end. Hoping the hop up shops come out with a tune and exhaust to bump up the power a bit.
     
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    No bashing and don't want to start a flame war, but so far I don't see much that the $ 20,999 R has that the $ 16,999 XP1K doesn't have. I really would like to see a straight on comparison. Comparing the X to the R doesn't really count.
     
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    Ok, but let's be fair and use MSRP and not discounted pricing. The XP1k sold for full retail during its release so thats only fair.
    With that said. The XP1k is listed at $18,599 add the roof to make it even comparison and it's $18,909.
    A $2,090 difference is well worth the spend for the DCT.
     
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    Ugh .......... how about a 12 speed transmission .... lol!
     
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    That is a good answer. That was what I'm looking for.
     
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