Lets talk Radios again... Pioneer takeover!

[TimG]

How easy is it to find a 50Watt CB in a footprint the size of one of the hams???

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[Admin]

 

[pFive]

I have a handheld CB, even with an external antenna you may be able to make it across a super walmart parking lot...

 

[allgm1]

The other problem with a hand held is charging the battery. I tend to use my radio mostly while plowing snow. I have a licence and use the local repeaters to talk with a friend who is usually out plow at the same time. The battery in a hand held just can't keep up and i got sick of bringing it in to charge every time I wanted to use it.

 

[pFive]

So, for those that have a serious concern about legality wanted to do this and be within the law they could buy the GMRS 5 watt base/mobile (Like a Midland Micro Mobile) and get the $70 no-test license (good for 10 years and covers all immediate family members) and still be able to communicate with the others at the takeover and on the trail because they are using GMRS frequencies. FYI, I have learned that no handhelds with a removable antenna can be used legally with a GMRS frequency.

 

[Ragnar406]

So, for those that have a serious concern about legality wanted to do this and be within the law they could buy the GMRS 5 watt base/mobile (Like a Midland Micro Mobile) and get the $70 no-test license (good for 10 years and covers all immediate family members) and still be able to communicate with the others at the takeover and on the trail because they are using GMRS frequencies. FYI, I have learned that no handhelds with a removable antenna can be used legally with a GMRS frequency.

If you were going to get a certified GRMS radio I would recommend looking at MXT400 MicroMobile®Two-Way Radio | Midland Radio or MXT275 MicroMobile® Two-Way Radio | Midland USA or something similar.

Not to debate on should the rules be the rules - they are and everyone is an adult and can make their own decision as they do with the many other rules that come with regards to riding sxs's.

All that said if you are riding in a group of 7-8 machines spread out over less than a mile you will probably be fine with a handheld, a mobile or installed unit make it nice to not worry about recharging every trip and can give you a little extra power if needed... just know the radio freq these broadcast on are line of sight so if you are at the bottom of a hill in a gully your not talking to the bottom of hill in another gully. Wattage of the receiving radio plays no factor in how well or how far away you can hear another transmitting radio - Antennas however play a huge role... and like everything.... everything is a compromise with regard to antennas.

Graphic I stole from Midland radios (note the mileage is probably not real world results) but it gives you an idea of what affects transmission range

note that in 2017 the Frequency's of FRS and GMRS changed somewhat and came into alignment so that FRS channels 1-22 match up with GRMS 1-22 (their used to be slight differences between both)

 

[ohanacreek]

If you were going to get a certified GRMS radio I would recommend looking at MXT400 MicroMobileTwo-Way Radio | Midland Radio or MXT275 MicroMobile Two-Way Radio | Midland USA or something similar.

Not to debate on should the rules be the rules - they are and everyone is an adult and can make their own decision as they do with the many other rules that come with regards to riding sxs's.

All that said if you are riding in a group of 7-8 machines spread out over less than a mile you will probably be fine with a handheld, a mobile or installed unit make it nice to not worry about recharging every trip and can give you a little extra power if needed... just know the radio freq these broadcast on are line of sight so if you are at the bottom of a hill in a gully your not talking to the bottom of hill in another gully. Wattage of the receiving radio plays no factor in how well or how far away you can hear another transmitting radio - Antennas however play a huge role... and like everything.... everything is a compromise with regard to antennas.

Graphic I stole from Midland radios (note the mileage is probably not real world results) but it gives you an idea of what affects transmission range
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note that in 2017 the Frequency's of FRS and GMRS changed somewhat and came into alignment so that FRS channels 1-22 match up with GRMS 1-22 (their used to be slight differences between both)

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Good info, good points.

So, for those that have a serious concern about legality wanted to do this and be within the law they could buy the GMRS 5 watt base/mobile (Like a Midland Micro Mobile) and get the $70 no-test license (good for 10 years and covers all immediate family members) and still be able to communicate with the others at the takeover and on the trail because they are using GMRS frequencies. FYI, I have learned that no handhelds with a removable antenna can be used legally with a GMRS frequency.

If you don’t take a test or get a certification why pay $70 for license? Seems to be a revenue source for an agency nothing more.

 

[pFive]

Good info, good points.



If you don’t take a test or get a certification why pay $70 for license? Seems to be a revenue source for an agency nothing more.

Agreed. It's a tax. I am just playing devil's advocate here in case someone else is concerned about it and did not want to ask. Personally I think those cheap 888 radios for $13 each would work out well to tell someone ya gotta stop and piss.

 

[Mudder]

At least the Baofeng has a FM radio button for daily garage/yard chore use.

 

[Vondy]

Someone was posting about sending the channels this group frequently used for upload. Could I get those to upload to mine? PM me for email.

Thanks

 

[Tramguage1]

Someone was posting about sending the channels this group frequently used for upload. Could I get those to upload to mine? PM me for email.

Thanks

Which radio you have? And do you have the software and programming cable?

 

[Vondy]

Which radio you have? And do you have the software and programming cable?

The ones recommended on here. TYT TH8600 waterproof Dual Band 25W Mobile Radio And a Baefeng handheld. Yes I have cable to program

Thanks

 

[Tramguage1]

The ones recommended on here. TYT TH8600 waterproof Dual Band 25W Mobile Radio And a Baefeng handheld. Yes I have cable to program

Thanks

If you PM me your email address I will send you the file. Then you can just upload to the TYT radio. I think the handhelds use a different software to upload.

 

[Vondy]

If you PM me your email address I will send you the file. Then you can just upload to the TYT radio. I think the handhelds use a different software to upload.

Thanks. Appreciate it.

 

[Bad_bowtie]

I just ordered 2 of these https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B007H4VT7A/?tag=sxsweb24-20

I ordered the cable to program if someone can send me the file? I've read thru this thread a couple times trying to understand this stuff , but still feeling pretty confused.

Also do the longer antennas make a discernible difference? Reviews on amazon are mixed, with some saying the factory antenna works better.

 

[Tramguage1]

I just ordered 2 of these https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B007H4VT7A/?tag=sxsweb24-20

Also ordered the cable to program if someone can send me the file? I've read thru this thread a couple times trying to understand this stuff , but still feeling pretty confused.

Also do the longer antennas make a discernible difference? Reviews on amazon are mixed, with some saying the factory antenna works better.

 

[JTW]

I just ordered 2 of these https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B007H4VT7A/?tag=sxsweb24-20

I ordered the cable to program if someone can send me the file? I've read thru this thread a couple times trying to understand this stuff , but still feeling pretty confused.

Also do the longer antennas make a discernible difference? Reviews on amazon are mixed, with some saying the factory antenna works better.

Honestly... just go with the $100 wired in unit. You’ll be much happier.

 

[Ragnar406]

I just ordered 2 of these https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B007H4VT7A/?tag=sxsweb24-20

I ordered the cable to program if someone can send me the file? I've read thru this thread a couple times trying to understand this stuff , but still feeling pretty confused.

Also do the longer antennas make a discernible difference? Reviews on amazon are mixed, with some saying the factory antenna works better.

PM me your email and I will send you over a file with the Frequency's that get used the most.

For the antenna - yes the antenna you use will make a difference - if you are just trying to talk to your group that is all together your stock antenna will be fine. an antenna like this will make a difference if trying to go out a little longer in distance - note that these radios transmit on frequency's that are line of sight so if you are on one side of the hill and your buddy is on the other - your probably not going to hear each other.

 

[Bad_bowtie]

Thanks guys, I'll definatly end up getting the wired in unit. If nothing else these will br great to give my wife on her 4 wheeler and friends that ride with us to use.

 

[William]

I have tried to understand this, and all I see is blah blah blah... I need an easy to use cb. That is a good one.. For a good price. Help!!!!!!!!!

 

[Neohio]

I have tried to understand this, and all I see is blah blah blah... I need an easy to use cb. That is a good one.. For a good price. Help!!!!!!!!!

I thought about buying a bunch of hand helds and having them pre-programmed for sale at Takeover. Just not sure I want to buy 20 and be stuck with them.