P500 Need help with the math part. Widening my stance for stability.

[100Acre]

The math and filling out forms side of my brian never seems to function well. I can bloviate on the construction of a modern day outhouse but when I build it, it may not be square, heck it might even be a Decatriangularhexahedron...Anyway, I need to figure out what size spacers and rims I need to get to 53” or 54”. I obviously need some stability in my life and my brian is tired of being slammed to either side of my Brian case due to my perpetual floppage. Feeling like the proverbial punk rock mosh pit Easter Bunny already...So @trigger suggested aluminum wheels to reduce weight and I should go with an offset of 4+3 in the bolt pattern 4/110 but after checking ITP’s website, they don’t make a 4+3 in 4/110 on a 12x7 rim. Only 5+2 & 2+5 but trigger said no to the 2+5.
1. One of my many questions is where will 5+2 put me at width wise, and do i need spacers, and if so, what sizes for front and back?
2. Also who should I buy the spacers from
3. Is there a better material that they’re made of; plastic, aluminum or steel?
4. Is the bolt pattern needed when ordering spacers ?

I’m also going to go up to 26” Bighorn Originals

So I’m thinking 26x9x12 in the front and 26x11x12 in the rear. I know a lot of you say go same size all around for a spare. Is it mainly for rotating them if you drive a lot of road time? Can you guys lend your thoughts on same size vs different front vs back?

I kinda need someone to hold my hand through this. So any help is greatly appreciated!!!

 

[DG Rider]

This here's my follerin' dot .

1) I think it depends on front or rear. The stock wheels have a different offsets. And track, for that matter.
2) @RB3offroad ?
3) I would not use plastic. I think you'll find most are machines aluminum.
4) 4-110mm bolt pattern unless you want to run 1000 wheels. RB3 was making adapter spacers for that. I believe the stud size is 12mm. If you buy ATV ones for smaller studs, it won't work.

UnNumbered) Rotation is one advantage. Traction is another with the improved width foot print. Some like the looks. I don't...and thats what i have. It also makes it steer heavier, but thats not an issue with your PS conversion.

 

[DG Rider]

P500 - School me on spacers

P500 - Spacers and Bearings

 

[100Acre]

P500 - School me on spacers

P500 - Spacers and Bearings

Just read the spacers and bearings thread earlier.

 

[Tigermark]

Just read the spacers and bearings thread earlier.

Just sell the 500 and get a 1000. Jeez

 

[CumminsPusher]

Just sell the 500 and get a 1000. Jeez

Maybe a white 3 pass with a bunch of accessories if that could ever be found

 

[CumminsPusher]

@WillyBill got those Wolverine wheels that works out well. Be cheap if someone here had a set laying around. It was substantially more stable, then add mellow spacers.

 

[100Acre]

Wow man, I like really mellow, like how mellow man? Like wow.

 

[100Acre]

Just sell the 500 and get a 1000. Jeez

You still haven’t sold it? Must be asking too much I suppose.....

 

[CumminsPusher]

You still haven’t sold it? Must be asking too much I suppose.....

No one knows more about widening a 500 more then @jak9922 but that’s not mellow lol.

 

[906UP]

I went with ITP steel wheels w/ 27" Terrabites because I could get them in a 4+3 offset, loved the ride & stability. I've since sold them and am looking for a new set up in a 25" or 26"this year. Has anyone found specs on what the weight of these wheels? Steel vs Aluminum?

 

[jwfirebird]

itp aluminum are very heavy, stock steel is the lightest wheel by far. bighorns are one of the heaviest tires out there too they are just made for wear above traction or anything else. a lot better tire out there that have better traction and are lighter

 

[jwfirebird]

I went with ITP steel wheels w/ 27" Terrabites because I could get them in a 4+3 offset, loved the ride & stability. I've since sold them and am looking for a new set up in a 25" or 26"this year. Has anyone found specs on what the weight of these wheels? Steel vs Aluminum?

don't know what the steels are but the aluminum are very thick for strength I guess, 27x14 inch xtr and ss wheels were about 50 lb per corner

 

[trigger]

itp aluminum are very heavy, stock steel is the lightest wheel by far. bighorns are one of the heaviest tires out there too they are just made for wear above traction or anything else. a lot better tire out there that have better traction and are lighter

Better traction, in what? Maybe mud but that's about it. You can get better tires for specific riding conditions but Big Horns are the best ALL AROUND ATV tire made and the standard to which all others are measured, that's why there's so many knock offs that resemble their tread pattern. If weight is a concern then the 2.0's fit the bill.

 

[sharp]

The math and filling out forms side of my brian never seems to function well. I can bloviate on the construction of a modern day outhouse but when I build it, it may not be square, heck it might even be a Decatriangularhexahedron...Anyway, I need to figure out what size spacers and rims I need to get to 53” or 54”. I obviously need some stability in my life and my brian is tired of being slammed to either side of my Brian case due to my perpetual floppage. Feeling like the proverbial punk rock mosh pit Easter Bunny already...So @trigger suggested aluminum wheels to reduce weight and I should go with an offset of 4+3 in the bolt pattern 4/110 but after checking ITP’s website, they don’t make a 4+3 in 4/110 on a 12x7 rim. Only 5+2 & 2+5 but trigger said no to the 2+5.
1. One of my many questions is where will 5+2 put me at width wise, and do i need spacers, and if so, what sizes for front and back?
2. Also who should I buy the spacers from
3. Is there a better material that they’re made of; plastic, aluminum or steel?
4. Is the bolt pattern needed when ordering spacers ?

I’m also going to go up to 26” Bighorn Originals

So I’m thinking 26x9x12 in the front and 26x11x12 in the rear. I know a lot of you say go same size all around for a spare. Is it mainly for rotating them if you drive a lot of road time? Can you guys lend your thoughts on same size vs different front vs back?

I kinda need someone to hold my hand through this. So any help is greatly appreciated!!!

Your a big guy like me. Changing the off set will benefit a smaller guy but someone our size has exceded any standard off set. All of our weight on one side of a small rig will pose danger no matter the off set. If you want true stability and safety you might want to consider a rig that "fits".

 

[jwfirebird]

he said original, they are way heavy and don't have the traction or cleaning a lot of people like the 2, its like maxxis is embarrassed by the weight though have to dig to find it. if you live in the south probably good tire, 2.0 I mean, I wouldn't know though they are expensive and every one I know that's tried them around here for mud or snow has gotten rid of it

 

[RB3offroad]

The math and filling out forms side of my brian never seems to function well. I can bloviate on the construction of a modern day outhouse but when I build it, it may not be square, heck it might even be a Decatriangularhexahedron...Anyway, I need to figure out what size spacers and rims I need to get to 53” or 54”. I obviously need some stability in my life and my brian is tired of being slammed to either side of my Brian case due to my perpetual floppage. Feeling like the proverbial punk rock mosh pit Easter Bunny already...So @trigger suggested aluminum wheels to reduce weight and I should go with an offset of 4+3 in the bolt pattern 4/110 but after checking ITP’s website, they don’t make a 4+3 in 4/110 on a 12x7 rim. Only 5+2 & 2+5 but trigger said no to the 2+5.
1. One of my many questions is where will 5+2 put me at width wise, and do i need spacers, and if so, what sizes for front and back?
2. Also who should I buy the spacers from
3. Is there a better material that they’re made of; plastic, aluminum or steel?
4. Is the bolt pattern needed when ordering spacers ?

I’m also going to go up to 26” Bighorn Originals

So I’m thinking 26x9x12 in the front and 26x11x12 in the rear. I know a lot of you say go same size all around for a spare. Is it mainly for rotating them if you drive a lot of road time? Can you guys lend your thoughts on same size vs different front vs back?

I kinda need someone to hold my hand through this. So any help is greatly appreciated!!!

yes RB3 makes a 110 to 136 spacer with 12mm studs( p500 to p1000)6061 aluminum - I would put a 1" spacer all the way around. If you would like call me at 480-389-7486

5+2 offset with 26" is common its about 53" then add a 1" wheel spacers helps the stability

 

[100Acre]

Your a big guy like me. Changing the off set will benefit a smaller guy but someone our size has exceded any standard off set. All of our weight on one side of a small rig will pose danger no matter the off set. If you want true stability and safety you might want to consider a rig that "fits".

Wanna buy a bunch of Russian rifles?

 

[sharp]

Wanna buy a bunch of Russian rifles?

I'll pass. Thanks.

 

[Rustneversleeps]

yes RB3 makes a 110 to 136 spacer with 12mm studs( p500 to p1000)6061 aluminum - I would put a 1" spacer all the way around. If you would like call me at 480-389-7486

5+2 offset with 26" is common its about 53" then add a 1" wheel spacers helps the stability

Will this set up will it be the same on all four corners with 26x10 all round..and the 1'' spacer to give it a 54" width..