P1000 P1000 fouling plugs?

[1BadDart]

Has anyone had any trouble fouling plugs in their P1000?

The reason I ask is that mine has acted up three times, it runs rough and on one cylinder for a time. It will finally clear up and run fine for maybe a month or four months, there is no rhyme or reason. So after the last episode I called my Dealer and explained what was happening (I even videoed it) and scheduled an appointment for am today. I took it to the dealer and without looking at it the mechanic tells me it has a fouled plug, that It's not being ran long enough to "dry the plugs". So I bought a new set of plugs ($36) and will change them and see if my issue goes away. Anyone ever heard anything like this?

He may be right but I'm calling B.S. I'd like to think the fuel map at idle wouldn't let it foul plugs because if it's that rich it'll also wash the cylinder walls and ruin the ring seal.

 

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[joeymt33]

Both of our pioneer 1000's will spit in sputter and stumble occasionally. It may only happen once a month but I have learned that applying partial throttle when starting the engine has stopped the problem.

Maybe we have the same issue?

 

[Delton]

Maybe your mechanic is referring to running long enough to get out of open loop? Other than that, I have no friggin idea what he's talking about and never heard of that. Mine has a little trouble idling right sometimes. But as Joey said, a little throttle will clear it up. Im guessing these things have a pretty basic system compared to a car.

 

[Smitty335]

Has anyone had any trouble fouling plugs in their P1000?

The reason I ask is that mine has acted up three times, it runs rough and on one cylinder for a time. It will finally clear up and run fine for maybe a month or four months, there is no rhyme or reason. So after the last episode I called my Dealer and explained what was happening (I even videoed it) and scheduled an appointment for am today. I took it to the dealer and without looking at it the mechanic tells me it has a fouled plug, that It's not being ran long enough to "dry the plugs". So I bought a new set of plugs ($36) and will change them and see if my issue goes away. Anyone ever heard anything like this?

He may be right but I'm calling B.S. I'd like to think the fuel map at idle wouldn't let it foul plugs because if it's that rich it'll also wash the cylinder walls and ruin the ring seal.

Mine will be hesitate to start every once in a while if I just reach in and turn the key, but if I haven't started it in a while I'll leave the key on for 30 seconds and no sputtering.

 

[elkguide]

Mine will be hesitate to start every once in a while if I just reach in and turn the key, but if I haven't started it in a while I'll leave the key on for 30 seconds and no sputtering.

Same here, a little slow starting once in a while and a little hesitation but once I get underway, no more issue.

 

[1BadDart]

Mine does the rough run on start up from time to time, but clears right up. My problem is when it does it for 10-15 minutes.

 

[joeymt33]

Mine does the rough run on start up from time to time, but clears right up. My problem is when it does it for 10-15 minutes.

That's not good. I've never had it continue after hitting the throttle.

 

[sporttrac4x4]

Has anyone had any trouble fouling plugs in their P1000?

The reason I ask is that mine has acted up three times, it runs rough and on one cylinder for a time. It will finally clear up and run fine for maybe a month or four months, there is no rhyme or reason. So after the last episode I called my Dealer and explained what was happening (I even videoed it) and scheduled an appointment for am today. I took it to the dealer and without looking at it the mechanic tells me it has a fouled plug, that It's not being ran long enough to "dry the plugs". So I bought a new set of plugs ($36) and will change them and see if my issue goes away. Anyone ever heard anything like this?

He may be right but I'm calling B.S. I'd like to think the fuel map at idle wouldn't let it foul plugs because if it's that rich it'll also wash the cylinder walls and ruin the ring seal.

You didn't need new plugs unless one is defective. Sometimes putting gas stabilizer in the gas will help.

 

[Dasmoeturhead]

$36.00 for plugs? Dang!
I reckon its been awhile since I priced em.

 

[1BadDart]

$36.00 for plugs? Dang!
I reckon its been awhile since I priced em.

That was after my %15 discount.

 

[Delton]

$36.00 for plugs? Dang!
I reckon its been awhile since I priced em.

Aren't they iridium? If so that explains the price. Cleaning is useless once they foul.

 

[Dasmoeturhead]

Yeah without the discount its $41.00 out the door. Dang! That's just stupid.
That iridium must be from the planet unabotainable.

Glad my old Ford Excursion with the V-10 didn't need em.

 

[Smitty335]

You didn't need new plugs unless one is defective. Sometimes putting gas stabilizer in the gas will help.

My gas isn't in there that long, but with Harvey, who knows what we'll get?

 

[0860silverado]

Both of our pioneer 1000's will spit in sputter and stumble occasionally. It may only happen once a month but I have learned that applying partial throttle when starting the engine has stopped the problem.

Maybe we have the same issue?

For what it's worth I'm known as an unsatisfied Pioneer 1000 owner overall but I gotta say...my engine has always started and run unbelievably rock solid and continuously perfect every single minute that it's running no matter the heat, cold or how many weeks it's been unused. To the point where I'm thinking "What alien technology did Honda harness for this air/fuel/ignition management?"

 

[0860silverado]

Yeah without the discount its $41.00 out the door. Dang! That's just stupid.
That iridium must be from the planet unabotainable.

Glad my old Ford Excursion with the V-10 didn't need em.

Brother... Not discounting you but I just replaced my perfectly running truck's factory iridium plugs at 185,000 miles and aside from obvious discoloration, I couldn't tell the new ones from the old ones. No kidding.

 

[0860silverado]

Aren't they iridium? If so that explains the price. Cleaning is useless once they foul.

Yep...cleaning them will destroy them.

 

[0860silverado]

Has anyone had any trouble fouling plugs in their P1000?

The reason I ask is that mine has acted up three times, it runs rough and on one cylinder for a time. It will finally clear up and run fine for maybe a month or four months, there is no rhyme or reason. So after the last episode I called my Dealer and explained what was happening (I even videoed it) and scheduled an appointment for am today. I took it to the dealer and without looking at it the mechanic tells me it has a fouled plug, that It's not being ran long enough to "dry the plugs". So I bought a new set of plugs ($36) and will change them and see if my issue goes away. Anyone ever heard anything like this?

He may be right but I'm calling B.S. I'd like to think the fuel map at idle wouldn't let it foul plugs because if it's that rich it'll also wash the cylinder walls and ruin the ring seal.

Yeah... and "dry the plugs"? Either he's reading from a 1970's shop manual or he's full of ****. I'd check your ignition system front to back. May have a bad connection causing intermittent problems. As you know, plugs don't foul and then all of a sudden fix themselves and then foul again. These machines are becoming notorious for having ground and harness problems. It'll drive you bananas. Good luck and keep us posted. And please don't change any spark plugs yet.

 

[JTW]

My thought process is.. for 36 bucks it's worth a shot! Cheap fix if that's the issue... and be sure to let us know how it turns out!

 

[rkwerner]

Mine has hesitated to start a few times. It seems to occur at time when I start the unit move a little, shut it off, and try to restart it shortly after (such as yard work or loading and unloading at the trailhead) I have always been able to get it to fire by feathering the gas pedal. I figured it probably had something to do with the temperature of the engine due to the short run.

 

[1BadDart]

I haven't changed the plugs yet. It's been three weeks since it last acted up and I'm thinking I'll wait until it shows it's a$$ again. When it does I'll find what cylinder it is and then change the plugs. This way if it does it again and it's the same cylinder there will be a direction to start.