P500 Sway bar disconnect?

[Alan aka Davinci]

Taylor park/tincup area

Ok, then you are 40 miles from Gunnison, I know the Taylor Park/Tincup area pretty well. You won't have hardly any width restrictions and with the area you can take off your sway bar. I don't think you can get over Tincup to St. Elmo because there will still be snow at the summit. We have been there in July and August and could not get over but you may be able to get to St. Elmo via Cumberland Pass.

 

[monaco]

Ok, then you are 40 miles from Gunnison, I know the Taylor Park/Tincup area pretty well. You won't have hardly any width restrictions and with the area you can take off your sway bar. I don't think you can get over Tincup to St. Elmo because there will still be snow at the summit. We have been there in July and August and could not get over but you may be able to get to St. Elmo via Cumberland Pass.

Thanks - I've been wondering about the snow situation. I'll be out there middle of July

 

[HUCK]

Do you have 1.5 spacer on all 4 corners..Looks like rear width seem narrow.I'm going to check that out today

Yes 1.5 all around . Didn't want to change the design (Honda's much smarter than me) just wanted a bit more stability and these did it perfectly . Still fit the 50" gates and much more stable .

 

[Heloron]

Thanks - I'm about to do a week-long Gunnison ride. Was wondering if it would be better to take it off or leave it on for that... comfort might be nice, but I don't know how many cambered trails I'll see either. I'll have my 2" spacers by that time

Like Alan said, if you plan to ride on 50" trails in Colorado, do not put spacers on. You won't make it through the majority of the trail heads. From ground up to about 15 inches or so, the entrance is right out at 50" at which point they bend the metal posts out an extra 3 or 4 inches so the Razors can get through without ripping their doors off. That's discriminatory I believe!! And if you do get through one end you may Drive quite aways to find that you can't get out the other end. As an added note, my sway bar has been disconnected also, no problems noted. Of course, high speed for me is 30 mph on a flat straight road, not on cornering. Getting old I suppose.

 

[PNWGuy]

Here is Colorado there is a lot of off camber riding so I prefer to leave mine attached and with so many 50" trails I cannot go to spacers.

Sounds like you ride in the same conditions that I do; lots of technical stuff and off-camber situations.

I'm still a little confused about the removal of the sway bar and if it will actually reduce the possibility of a rollover. I do a little bit of riding on gravel roads between trails, but most riding is on 50" restricted trails and I'm going under 15mph. I rarely get out of 3rd gear.

It seems that more articulation equals more contact with the ground, which would increase lateral stability.

My one close call tip over last week was going around a sharp switchback that was off-camber. One of the back tires lifted up in the middle of the turn. Having more articulation would have kept it planted.

 

[monaco]

Sounds like you ride in the same conditions that I do; lots of technical stuff and off-camber situations.

I'm still a little confused about the removal of the sway bar and if it will actually reduce the possibility of a rollover. I do a little bit of riding on gravel roads between trails, but most riding is on 50" restricted trails and I'm going under 15mph. I rarely get out of 3rd gear.

It seems that more articulation equals more contact with the ground, which would increase lateral stability.

My one close call tip over last week was going around a sharp switchback that was off-camber. One of the back tires lifted up in the middle of the turn. Having more articulation would have kept it planted.

My understanding is that removal of the sway bar allows for more lean, which gives the driver a clue about a possible tip and provides earlier warning. I've got my sway bar connected and have in many cases had some wheels up off the dirt - I've laid it over a few times too partly because of that fact. (always very gently)

 

[Alan aka Davinci]

Sounds like you ride in the same conditions that I do; lots of technical stuff and off-camber situations.

I'm still a little confused about the removal of the sway bar and if it will actually reduce the possibility of a rollover. I do a little bit of riding on gravel roads between trails, but most riding is on 50" restricted trails and I'm going under 15mph. I rarely get out of 3rd gear.

It seems that more articulation equals more contact with the ground, which would increase lateral stability.

My one close call tip over last week was going around a sharp switchback that was off-camber. One of the back tires lifted up in the middle of the turn. Having more articulation would have kept it planted.

The removal of the sway bar will cause the down hill side of the vehicle to articulate down to that side of the hill, in essence putting more weight on the down hill side which can add to the roll over causing pucker meter rising drastically even if you don't turn over.

 

[PNWGuy]

Surely someone has taken before and after pictures of the sway bar removal and off-camber stability???

Maybe I will take some pics tomorrow of the rear suspension going over an obstacle and on a hill to try and show the difference between with a sway bar and without. Mine is still attached.

 

[Rustneversleeps]

Surely someone has taken before and after pictures of the sway bar removal and off-camber stability???

Maybe I will take some pics tomorrow of the rear suspension going over an obstacle and on a hill to try and show the difference between with a sway bar and without. Mine is still attached.

There's a Guy on YouTube has A Video on the removel of the sway bar big difference for sure..

 

[906UP]

I had my sway bar removed for a couple years but also had 4+3 wheels to give it a wider stance, along with that I regeared the trans so it will run 48-50mph on an open stretch. With the wider stance there were no issues at speed. I have since sold the tire wheel combo and am running stock until my next set comes in. With the stock wheels/tires I reinstalled the sway for a more planted feel at speed.

 

[tomcj2]

There's a Guy on YouTube has A Video on the removel of the sway bar big difference for sure..

Can you post a link to it?

 

[DG Rider]

Surely someone has taken before and after pictures of the sway bar removal and off-camber stability???

Maybe I will take some pics tomorrow of the rear suspension going over an obstacle and on a hill to try and show the difference between with a sway bar and without. Mine is still attached.

We had a guy who did that. Unfortunately he died in a rollover accident before he could post them.

Can you post a link to it?

FWIW, i took off the passenger wheel and was able to work it out that way.

 

[Rustneversleeps]

Can you post a link to it?

Here ya go bud.....

 

[Mudder]

Sway bar disconnected and like it. Local trail with tall gates/poles for 50 inch width barrier an issue when the ground is not level. Causes ROPS to hit at roof due to tilt. Called USFS and they do nothing.

 

[Idahocrawler]

We had a guy who did that. Unfortunately he died in a rollover accident before he could post them.

FWIW, i took off the passenger wheel and was able to work it out that way.

Seriously?
A guy died from taking off a sway bar ?

 

[DG Rider]

Seriously?
A guy died from taking off a sway bar ?

LOL...no. Not that I know of. Just being funny...and nobody caught it until NOW!

 

[Idahocrawler]

LOL...no. Not that I know of. Just being funny...and nobody caught it until NOW!

Lol

It is funny but I was like holy crap.
I’m thinking if Yamaha took them off due to safety there’s has to be something to it . You would have thought Honda would have learned from their mistake

 

[Heloron]

Thanks - I'm about to do a week-long Gunnison ride. Was wondering if it would be better to take it off or leave it on for that... comfort might be nice, but I don't know how many cambered trails I'll see either. I'll have my 2" spacers by that time

Don't go on any 50" trails with those spacers, if you get through one end, you not get out the other end. My sway is disconnected, but then again I'm not into high speed driving on the straight line or in corners. I spend about two weeks in Colorado driving all over those trails west of Delta and Montrose. My best investment has been tires, Torque Locker, and Walker Evans shocks for the front.

 

[Yellowbeast]

Will removing the sway bar effect me towing my 14’ trailer through my yard? I have 26x9x12 and 26x11x12 bear claw htr on stock rims with no wheel spacers

 

[seymore13]

I'm going to try removing it before our next ride. I'm not too concerned about a rollover while I'm driving it. However my wife's offroad and trail riding background comes from riding and racing banshees and the like. The phrase, "drive it like you stole it" comes to mind. May be a bit tough to get her to take it easy a bit while we learn the new feel of the swaybar disconnected.