P500 Who wants a diff. Lock ?

[Livinthelegend]

Hello everyone! I have machined a locking spool for P500. Just installed it for drivability and durability testing. It does NOT hop the wheels at all but I did notice the steering has a slightly heavier feel to it at very low speed tight turns. I should mention I do have power steering so this helps greatly. At higher speeds above 15km cant tell any difference at all. I am refining my 3rd proto type for testing/fitment and will bring it to market if all goes well... here is a few pics to check out.

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Does the front only lock when 4x4 is engaged? Is steering ect only affected when 4x4 is engaged? Does 2x4 remain unchanged? What are you planning on charging? How is the install?

Thanks in advance for the answers.

 

[Dp5hunter]

I did also a few weeks back. They responded a few days later and said i was on the list to be notified when they start selling them.

What was that email adress to get on that notification list.

 

[JWB]

Hello everyone! I have machined a locking spool for P500. Just installed it for drivability and durability testing. It does NOT hop the wheels at all but I did notice the steering has a slightly heavier feel to it at very low speed tight turns. I should mention I do have power steering so this helps greatly. At higher speeds above 15km cant tell any difference at all. I am refining my 3rd proto type for testing/fitment and will bring it to market if all goes well... here is a few pics to check out.

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This is very cool! If the spool doesn't affect handling/steering too badly that is very good news. (I assume you were testing in 4wd) How did you cut the splines!? Reason I ask, is apparently that's the hold up with the Aussie-locker... I would love to try one out if you're pretty confident with it's performance- would like nothing better than to 'brag it up' if it works well. Not asking for a freebee! I just got back from WV/VA trails today- there were a couple of the 'black' trails that could've used a locker for sure. I have family in Ontario- what part of Ont. are you in? My younger brother owns/operates a motocross/RV park in Shannonville. Free Flow MX Park & Campground

 

[JWB]

Here is a short video of me Playing around with locker installed.

Willi Scheel

Just watched the vid. Now THAT's what I'm talking about! All you need now is the air suspension, and you could drive right over that obstacle without rolling over. What a combination that's gonna be!!

 

[Bastardchild]

What was that email adress to get on that notification list.

Dp5 i just googled the torq-master website and found the little tab that said 'email us' or something like that. I emailed them and said i owned a 2016 Honda Pioneer 500 and i wanted to be put on the waiting list for when the locker became available. A few days later i got a reply from a woman named Cora that said that she added me to it.

 

[hondasrule]

Just watched the vid. Now THAT's what I'm talking about! All you need now is the air suspension, and you could drive right over that obstacle without rolling over. What a combination that's gonna be!!

Thanks for the reply jwb. Adjuable self leveling air suspension on the fly That would killer. Love it.

 

[Bastardchild]

@Dp5hunter I just went back through my emails, its torqmasters.com

 

[Bastardchild]

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Thanks for the reply jwb. Adjuable self leveling air suspension on the fly That would killer. Love it.

I cant watch it. I dont have dramabook.

 

[Dp5hunter]

@Dp5hunter I just went back through my emails, its torqmasters.com

Thanks for the information I'll be contacting them today.

 

[JWB]

Thanks for the reply jwb. Adjuable self leveling air suspension on the fly That would killer. Love it.

DOH!! Don't want to get too far off track here..... but there's a company that makes sensors and the controllers to do the auto self leveling along with full manual control.......... I'm really trying not to spend more money on the system.... but it's so cool!! The options are endless..... Intro - AccuAir Suspension

 

[hondasrule]

Does the front only lock when 4x4 is engaged? Is steering ect only affected when 4x4 is engaged? Does 2x4 remain unchanged? What are you planning on charging? How is the install?

Thanks in advance for the answers.

Does the front only lock when 4x4 is engaged? Is steering ect only affected when 4x4 is engaged? Does 2x4 remain unchanged? What are you planning on charging? How is the install?

Thanks in advance for the answers.

Thanks for inquiring. livingthelegend
2x4 still works exactly the same(lock in front axle and unlock it when you only need power to rear wheels)
the steering does feel a little heavier but only at slow speeds like 0-12 km .anything above that you cant really notice any difference at all. the p5 doesn't have the tightest turning radius to start with so wheel hop on tight turning radius is not a issue. the front wheels are always turning at the same speed with locker installed so it gives you a kinda go cart steering feel which is easy to get use to and not bad in my opinion. at the moment i am working on my 3rd proto type and refining building process and its taking an average of 6hrs to complete one. roughly time and materials i would likely ask $300.00 Canadian, plus whatever to ship. i would think if i can get this down to a fine art the price will drop as time to make product will change. Installation i think could be made easy if i can show some you tube videos and give pointers. i will likely package it with the necessary pinion pin removal tool and instruction sheet and links for video of me doing the full install. i will try to post more videos of me testing the locker out so everyone can get check it out..

 

[hondasrule]

This is very cool! If the spool doesn't affect handling/steering too badly that is very good news. (I assume you were testing in 4wd) How did you cut the splines!? Reason I ask, is apparently that's the hold up with the Aussie-locker... I would love to try one out if you're pretty confident with it's performance- would like nothing better than to 'brag it up' if it works well. Not asking for a freebee! I just got back from WV/VA trails today- there were a couple of the 'black' trails that could've used a locker for sure. I have family in Ontario- what part of Ont. are you in? My younger brother owns/operates a motocross/RV park in Shannonville. Free Flow MX Park & Campground

Jwb i was defiantly testing i 4wd..I am located in Uxbridge Ontario which is 45min north of Toronto. shannonville would be about 2hrs away from here.i cut my splines using the hobbing method and dividing wheel on the lathe and have made the tooling to do this task. I would be honored to send you one for bragging up rights(good or bad) and testing out its maximum capability's. they are hand made out of 4140 crome moly steel and i only want a premium product that is worthy of Hondas capability or i will drop this endeavor like a wet stone.i will contact you when next one is complete.

 

[Seg]

Jwb i was defiantly testing i 4wd..I am located in Uxbridge Ontario which is 45min north of Toronto. shannonville would be about 2hrs away from here.i cut my splines using the hobbing method and dividing wheel on the lathe and have made the tooling to do this task. I would be honored to send you one for bragging up rights(good or bad) and testing out its maximum capability's. they are hand made out of 4140 crome moly steel and i only want a premium product that is worthy of Hondas capability or i will drop this endeavor like a wet stone.i will contact you when next one is complete.

hondasrules, please keep us posted

 

[Seg]

Dp5 i just googled the torq-master website and found the little tab that said 'email us' or something like that. I emailed them and said i owned a 2016 Honda Pioneer 500 and i wanted to be put on the waiting list for when the locker became available. A few days later i got a reply from a woman named Cora that said that she added me to it.

And I never got a reply...

 

[Chooglin]

@hondasrule is your spool heat treated?

 

[Dp5hunter]

torqmasters.com

And I never got a reply...

I contacted them as well and now the wayting game bigins.

 

[JWB]

Jwb i was defiantly testing i 4wd..I am located in Uxbridge Ontario which is 45min north of Toronto. shannonville would be about 2hrs away from here.i cut my splines using the hobbing method and dividing wheel on the lathe and have made the tooling to do this task. I would be honored to send you one for bragging up rights(good or bad) and testing out its maximum capability's. they are hand made out of 4140 crome moly steel and i only want a premium product that is worthy of Hondas capability or i will drop this endeavor like a wet stone.i will contact you when next one is complete.

Awesome! It would make a great comparison between the auto locker, and a spool...looking forward to the install. It must've taken hours to cut those splines. How close was the final fit on the axle?

 

[jay_man81]

Jwb i was defiantly testing i 4wd..I am located in Uxbridge Ontario which is 45min north of Toronto. shannonville would be about 2hrs away from here.i cut my splines using the hobbing method and dividing wheel on the lathe and have made the tooling to do this task. I would be honored to send you one for bragging up rights(good or bad) and testing out its maximum capability's. they are hand made out of 4140 crome moly steel and i only want a premium product that is worthy of Hondas capability or i will drop this endeavor like a wet stone.i will contact you when next one is complete.

Appalachian Mountain Riders is always up for testing and reviewing as well (wink...wink)

 

[hondasrule]

@hondasrule is your spool heat treated?

Its 4140 chrome molybdenum hi tensile annealed brinell hardness of 185-210

 

[hondasrule]

Awesome! It would make a great comparison between the auto locker, and a spool...looking forward to the install. It must've taken hours to cut those splines. How close was the final fit on the axel?

No slop at all it is extremely close.it fits as well as any drive shaft splines or slip joints I have seen . I use the original gear for measurements and carefully mic the major diameter. its a 25 spline and I go around each side 3times (two rough cuts and one fine cut)so total cuts 75 each side. ya its a lot! lol...