P500 Buckets in a P5

[trigger]

Hey @trigger, the Popo seats have a fairly flexible frame.
The frame adds to the comfort of the seat as the seat back is not stiff when your body slams in to it.
Something to consider when mounting, allow some space for the back to move or add a cushion for it to stop against.

You might consider bolting a seat down to something solid and testing how much movment you need.
Food for thought.

Personally I was considering what parts of the seat frame / ROPS might need to be re-located to allow the seat to fit where I want it.
The cross bracing behind the bench seat back needs to tip out of the way to the rear - sacrificing cargo space.
I like the idea of the Talon seats but I can see the supply of RZR seats is pretty good. (Seat cover is a great idea to remove the embroiderd name)
But I need to pick a seat first before I get serious about cutting metal.

Lol, you're right, picking the seat is the hardest part!
I didn't find moving it back any further as an issue. Again I'm trying to keep all factory set seat angles the same and I was able to get the front of the seat bottom flush to the plastics, maybe even back a little. The seat back ended up about a 1/2" from hitting the empty head rest area, but I drew that out of it when fastening it back. Figured it would rattle and drive me nuts. Could put a rubber spacer there and I think I will, good idea @lee !
Moving it down would be the only thing worth cutting anymore than I have and that would be involved, especially keeping the seats easily removable. It can be done but would also remove a layer of protection that I'm not willing to sacrifice. I have my second battery under the driver's seat and the gas tank's on the other side, for the little it's moved me up I just can't justify it.

 

[Admin]

 

[trigger]

Passenger side is set now too and had to notch plastics for it as well. I adjusted the backs down, which shouldn't make any difference in how high you sit but for some reason feels lower and better. It's not bad at all and i like it. I am going to put rubber bumpers behind the headrest area and need to fine tune the anchoring points. All edges are rounded off and everything will be painted up before it's done but here's some initial pics.

 

[Chooglin]

Passenger side is set now too and had to notch plastics for it as well. I adjusted the backs down, which shouldn't make any difference in how high you sit but for some reason feels lower and better. It's not bad at all and i like it. I am going to put rubber bumpers behind the headrest area and need to fine tune the anchoring points. All edges are rounded off and everything will be painted up before it's done but here's some initial pics.

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Looks great

 

[Backwoods]

Those seats are nice . It will be a lot more comfortable on those long rides. I like them.

 

[trigger]

Well they're done as far as fit and function anyway. Now I have to strip it all down and prep and paint everything. Used a lot of aluminum, great on weight but sucks to paint properly. I'm pretty happy with how it turned out, they feel good and aren't going anywhere. Used 1/4" aluminum for the bottom, made patterns from paper then transferred and cut. They fit tight so they can't move. Used steel angles to hook it under the front rail in factory location.


Put rubber bumpers on old headrest brackets, even used the factory bolts.


When it came to mounting the back, I tried Jay Man's turnbuckle attachment idea and it sucked for me. The eyebolt doesn't sit right in the seat frame and the angles were wrong to function easy. Also cinching it up wasn't very comfortable so I took a different route. Made brackets and fastened them at the correct angle to the seat, then drilled and put a 3/8" bolt through the seat frame, went straight through the bracket and cinch them up with wing nuts. Just pull the wingnut and the seat will lift out.

Just need to fine tune my shield, order seat covers and buy one of Chooglin's consoles now.

PS. Don't know if you can tell in the pics but there are no square edges here, everything was rounded over and ground smooth. Sharp metal and upholstery just doesn't go together.

 

[Deleted member 3748]

Can you still get to the airbox in a reasonable amount of time?

 

[trigger]

Can you still get to the airbox in a reasonable amount of time?

Just pull the passenger side seat, one wingnut and lift it out.

 

[Smitty335]

Well they're done as far as fit and function anyway. Now I have to strip it all down and prep and paint everything. Used a lot of aluminum, great on weight but sucks to paint properly. I'm pretty happy with how it turned out, they feel good and aren't going anywhere. Used 1/4" aluminum for the bottom, made patterns from paper then transferred and cut. They fit tight so they can't move. Used steel angles to hook it under the front rail in factory location.
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Put rubber bumpers on old headrest brackets, even used the factory bolts.
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When it came to mounting the back, I tried Jay Man's turnbuckle attachment idea and it sucked for me. The eyebolt doesn't sit right in the seat frame and the angles were wrong to function easy. Also cinching it up wasn't very comfortable so I took a different route. Made brackets and fastened them at the correct angle to the seat, then drilled and put a 3/8" bolt through the seat frame, went straight through the bracket and cinch them up with wing nuts. Just pull the wingnut and the seat will lift out.
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Just need to fine tune my shield, order seat covers and buy one of Chooglin's consoles now.

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PS. Don't know if you can tell in the pics but there are no square edges here, everything was rounded over and ground smooth. Sharp metal and upholstery just doesn't go together.

Looks trick!

 

[Backwoods]

The console will be BA with the bucket seats. Honda could learn a lesson here.

 

[Chooglin]

Man those look comfy!!! Are they wife approved? (does she like them)

 

[trigger]

Yeah, she likes them. She was complaining when i first told her I was going to do it, " I like the seats the way they are". Told her they would be more comfortable. She likes how the bolstering holds you in place and she can still reach her grab bar, all good.

 

[trigger]

The console will be BA with the bucket seats. Honda could learn a lesson here.

Making it fit is going to be the trick. The numbers say it won't work and I may have to modify it a bit, one way or another it's going in.

 

[ehart814]

No triggershield. Unbelievable! Lol


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[trigger]

No triggershield. Unbelievable! Lol


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It's coming, need to put in a couple more cuts. Ordered the console from Choog last night, also ordered some star handled wingnut type things, they look nicer and will function easier. Just ordered the seat covers too, cha ching!

 

[bowhunterbill]

Here’s a suggestion for painting the aluminum. I’ve used a clear, automotive primer intended for plastic bumpers on shotguns, a duck hunting mountain bike and other hunting projects. Krylon camo adheres to it and does not scratch off.

I don’t have the can now for a brand, but stores that specialize in automotive paints (in can for a spray gun) should carry it.

Nice work.


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[trigger]

Here’s a suggestion for painting the aluminum. I’ve used a clear, automotive primer intended for plastic bumpers on shotguns, a duck hunting mountain bike and other hunting projects. Krylon camo adheres to it and does not scratch off.

I don’t have the can now for a brand, but stores that specialize in automotive paints (in can for a spray gun) should carry it.

Nice work.


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Thanks Bill. I've actually done it several times on other aluminum projects. The whole piece has to be sanded with 3M Scotch Brite pads, the red ones. Can't touch it with your fingers either. Wipe it down with rubbing alcohol and you then have 15 minutes to get a primer on it. I use Self Etching Primer, once you've done this you can top coat it with anything you want. It's involved but have never had anything peel afterward.

 

[trigger]

My Chooglin console showed up yesterday. I knew it wasn't going to be a bolt it right in thing for me so had to figure out a way to make it work. First off, this thing's BA! I saw Choog's at the Takeover but his is yellow and this one's mine sooo...
The side bolsters on the buckets stick out farther than the stock seat so I had to push it towards the front more than Choog's design. Also, the height is set to ride above the stock seat but the bolsters on the seat bottoms of the buckets sit higher so I had to move it up a little more than designed. This is what I came up with and it works great for my situation...

Made two brackets out of 1/8" x 2" flat stock, cut them 4" long and drilled 1/2" holes for the seat belt latches.

Had to notch two 1/8" slots in the plastic so they sit flat against the frame underneath.

Installed those, put the seats in and positioned the console right where I wanted it and marked where Choog's bracket holes were.

Noticed about 3 yrs ago that the passenger side seating area is slightly smaller in width, have always dealt with that and installing these buckets was no exception. After lining everything up as much as possible, you're still left slightly off center between the two. Now, not only did I need to move the console forward and up but side to side as well. Took measurements and used back nuts to place it where I needed it to be.

Installed the Choog bracket and adjusted accordingly. Reinstalled the seats, put the box on the bracket and tightened her down. This thing is nice and glad I took this route as opposed to making my own. It holds more than it appears in pics, is lockable, has a rubber seal, powder coated black and sits right where I want it, perfect!

Can't stand raw metal so everything has been stripped down and is under paint. Posted this trying to be patient and let things dry properly...not my strong suit.

 

[Chooglin]

My Chooglin console showed up yesterday. I knew it wasn't going to be a bolt it right in thing for me so had to figure out a way to make it work. First off, this thing's BA! I saw Choog's at the Takeover but his is yellow and this one's mine sooo...
The side bolsters on the buckets stick out farther than the stock seat so I had to push it towards the front more than Choog's design. Also, the height is set to ride above the stock seat but the bolters on the seat bottoms of the buckets sit higher so I had to move it up a little more than designed. This is what I came up with and it works great for my situation...

Made two brackets out of 1/8" x 2" flat stock, cut them 4" long and drilled 1/2" holes for the seat belt latches.
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Had to notch two 1/8" slots in the plastic so they sit flat against the frame underneath.
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Installed those, put the seats in and positioned the console right where I wanted it and marked where Choog's bracket holes were.
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Noticed about 3 yrs ago that the passenger side seating area is slightly smaller in width, have always dealt with that and installing these buckets was no exception. After lining everything up as much as possible, you're still left slightly off center between the two. Now, not only did I need to move the console forward and up but side to side as well. Took measurements and used back nuts to place it where I needed it to be.
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Installed the Choog bracket and adjusted accordingly. Reinstalled the seats, put the box on the bracket and tightened her down. This thing is nice and glad I took this route as opposed to making my own. It holds more than it appears in pics, is lockable, has a rubber seal, powder coated black and sits right where I want it, perfect!
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Can't stand raw metal so everything has been stripped down and is under paint. Posted this trying to be patient and let things dry properly...not my strong suit.

@trigger that is genius, excellent job on making the brackets to work with the bucket seats............I knew you would come up with something!!!

 

[snakeriver]

Looks great.....

 

[Deleted member 3748]

I may have to modify it a bit