P1000 Deluxe vs LE? Need some real world knowledge.

[Cuoutdoors]

Hasn't there been enough posts on the subject? Not my fault people are ignorant and cant have a real honest discussion ......eh @JTW for example

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[Tigermark]

Hasn't there been enough posts on the subject? Not my fault people are ignorant and cant have a real honest discussion ......eh @JTW for example

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The posts in this thread are a perfect example of why the discussion quickly derails. Theirs nothing wrong with either machine or either drive system. Both have proven reliable, dependable and effective. The choice is do you as a driver want to be in control or do you want the machine in control in low traction situations.

The reason I believe that some LE drivers get grief is the arrogant, condescending attitude towards folks the don’t embrace the i4wd system. Similar to BMW owners, that have that “my s***s better than your s***” attitude. Some folks just simply prefer a less complex system in a sxs . Some folks Just simply prefer to be able to shift into diff lock manually. And some folks simply like like the i4wd system . Choice is a good thing.

For me, I don’t think the i4wd is worth the additional cost. But that’s just me.

 

[Plumber32]

The posts in this thread are a perfect example of why the discussion quickly derails. Theirs nothing wrong with either machine or either drive system. Both have proven reliable, dependable and effective. The choice is do you as a driver want to be in control or do you want the machine in control in low traction situations.

The reason I believe that some LE drivers get grief is the arrogant, condescending attitude towards folks the don’t embrace the i4wd system. Similar to BMW owners, that have that “my s***s better than your s***” attitude. Some folks just simply prefer a less complex system in a sxs . Some folks Just simply prefer to be able to shift into diff lock manually. And some folks simply like like the i4wd system . Choice is a good thing.

For me, I don’t think the i4wd is worth the additional cost. But that’s just me.

That's pretty fair!

 

[Kilo427]

The posts in this thread are a perfect example of why the discussion quickly derails. Theirs nothing wrong with either machine or either drive system. Both have proven reliable, dependable and effective. The choice is do you as a driver want to be in control or do you want the machine in control in low traction situations.

The reason I believe that some LE drivers get grief is the arrogant, condescending attitude towards folks the don’t embrace the i4wd system. Similar to BMW owners, that have that “my s***s better than your s***” attitude. Some folks just simply prefer a less complex system in a sxs . Some folks Just simply prefer to be able to shift into diff lock manually. And some folks simply like like the i4wd system . Choice is a good thing.

For me, I don’t think the i4wd is worth the additional cost. But that’s just me.

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[CumminsPusher]

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Lol

 

[Plumber32]

Lol

What would you chose pnw legend?

 

[nbomar]

The posts in this thread are a perfect example of why the discussion quickly derails. Theirs nothing wrong with either machine or either drive system. Both have proven reliable, dependable and effective. The choice is do you as a driver want to be in control or do you want the machine in control in low traction situations.

The reason I believe that some LE drivers get grief is the arrogant, condescending attitude towards folks the don’t embrace the i4wd system. Similar to BMW owners, that have that “my s***s better than your s***” attitude. Some folks just simply prefer a less complex system in a sxs . Some folks Just simply prefer to be able to shift into diff lock manually. And some folks simply like like the i4wd system . Choice is a good thing.

For me, I don’t think the i4wd is worth the additional cost. But that’s just me.

I have a bmw and I’m prettt special. Just sayin....

Well, my wife has a bmw and she is special. I’m just another retard on this site reading these messages. I have nothing valuable to add.


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[CumminsPusher]

The posts in this thread are a perfect example of why the discussion quickly derails. Theirs nothing wrong with either machine or either drive system. Both have proven reliable, dependable and effective. The choice is do you as a driver want to be in control or do you want the machine in control in low traction situations.

The reason I believe that some LE drivers get grief is the arrogant, condescending attitude towards folks the don’t embrace the i4wd system. Similar to BMW owners, that have that “my s***s better than your s***” attitude. Some folks just simply prefer a less complex system in a sxs . Some folks Just simply prefer to be able to shift into diff lock manually. And some folks simply like like the i4wd system . Choice is a good thing.

For me, I don’t think the i4wd is worth the additional cost. But that’s just me.

Well s*** you said that far more eloquently then I could. But I’m just a dumb hick that can’t fix idiot lights when they pop up and doesn’t mind sliding a lever over one spot to the right when the going gets rough.
Personally I thought it was awesome they had both choices. I wish that followed into the Talon for both types of people.

 

[CumminsPusher]

What would you chose pnw legend?

My ‘16 isn’t going anywhere! ONLY thing I wish mine had was the auto memory on the mode switch from the newer models.

 

[Cuoutdoors]

No I dont agree. I think being handy has nothing to do with it. But I would agree that if you're not handy then HONDA is the way to go.

I think your statement discounts how great of a machine non LE's are, such as yours, and gives the wrong impression of the true benefits of the I4WD.

They are both great machines. Just different.

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The posts in this thread are a perfect example of why the discussion quickly derails. Theirs nothing wrong with either machine or either drive system. Both have proven reliable, dependable and effective. The choice is do you as a driver want to be in control or do you want the machine in control in low traction situations.

The reason I believe that some LE drivers get grief is the arrogant, condescending attitude towards folks the don’t embrace the i4wd system. Similar to BMW owners, that have that “my s***s better than your s***” attitude. Some folks just simply prefer a less complex system in a sxs . Some folks Just simply prefer to be able to shift into diff lock manually. And some folks simply like like the i4wd system . Choice is a good thing.

For me, I don’t think the i4wd is worth the additional cost. But that’s just me.

I said both are great machines just different. It's not some LE drivers getting grief it's all of them. I've not been arrogant or condescending. There are certainly pros and cons to each. I've expressed that many times. I clearly stated both are great machines.

I think what always derails the discussion is the number of people who have never sat their ass in an LE and drove it yet they dont hesitate to bash it every chance they get. They bash the technology, the owner, the lack of manual diff and anything else they can think of. Theyve never driven one and they have no idea what they're talking about. They have zero experience yet It happens every damn time. Every time someone asks about an LE the people that dont have one bash it and theres like 5 guys on here that actually own one and can defend it.



You can text me and give me s*** all you want I dont care, but I do care about this being a fair and honest forum. So far there is no shortage of people bashing the LE machine that they have never sat their ass in.

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[nbomar]

I said both are great machines just different. It's not some LE drivers getting grief it's all of them. I've not been arrogant or condescending. There are certainly pros and cons to each. I've expressed that many times. I clearly stated both are great machines.

I think what always derails the discussion is the number of people who have never sat their ass in an LE and drove it yet they dont hesitate to bash it every chance they get. They bash the technology, the owner, the lack of manual diff and anything else they can think of. Theyve never driven one and they have no idea what they're talking about. They have zero experience yet It happens every damn time. Every time someone asks about an LE the people that dont have one bash it and theres like 5 guys on here that actually own one and can defend it.



You can text me and give me s*** all you want I dont care, but I do care about this being a fair and honest forum. So far there is no shortage of people bashing the LE machine that they have never sat their ass in.

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Yea but I still have a BMW.


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[elkguide]

I have a bmw and I’m pretty special. Just sayin....

Well, my wife has a bmw and she is special. I’m just another retard on this site reading these messages. I have nothing valuable to add.

Best line of the entire thread!

 

[nbomar]

Best line of the entire thread!

Glad someone paid attention to me. I’m very needy. Thanks @elkguide


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[Cuoutdoors]

Glad someone paid attention to me. I’m very needy. Thanks @elkguide


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Tiger is just mad cause hes 2 cylinders short of a full pickup.

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[CumminsPusher]

Tiger is just mad cause hes 2 cylinders short of a full pickup.

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No semi driver has ever said that with a straight face

 

[BigOL3]

I have to admit I have never used an LE, but have no doubt about how well it works...... when it works. The reason I would not buy one is SIMPLE ...... KISS ..... Keep It Simple Stupid. It IS another electrical/computer option that WILL fail at SOME POINT. I see the manual locker as having LESS chances of failure. That is the same reason I would prefer manual locking hubs on my truck, rather than electronic. I HAVE had the electronic connection to fail which left me withOUT 4WD. Newer concepts are NOT always better/more reliable. If it ain't broke ..... don't fix it!

 

[DDDonkey]

I will put in my 2 cents. I have the deluxe because I like having the control over the diff lock on the front. The LE has grown on me for a couple of reasons. First when you need 4wd you set it and forget it, no need to stop to engage the front locker the LE does it for you ( I know it is not a locker but you get what I mean, it does its magic). Second I am pretty sure the LE comes with bigger diffs so that should make them stronger. The only other difference is the skid plates and the shocks to to me. Good luck and let us know what you end up with!

 

[CumminsPusher]

I will put in my 2 cents. I have the deluxe because I like having the control over the diff lock on the front. The LE has grown on me for a couple of reasons. First when you need 4wd you set it and forget it, no need to stop to engage the front locker the LE does it for you ( I know it is not a locker but you get what I mean, it does its magic). Second I am pretty sure the LE comes with bigger diffs so that should make them stronger. The only other difference is the skid plates and the shocks to to me. Good luck and let us know what you end up with!

You don’t need to stop to engage or disengage the locker. I lightly let off gas and go. Think most do

 

[BigOL3]

I will put in my 2 cents. I have the deluxe because I like having the control over the diff lock on the front. The LE has grown on me for a couple of reasons. First when you need 4wd you set it and forget it, no need to stop to engage the front locker the LE does it for you ( I know it is not a locker but you get what I mean, it does its magic). Second I am pretty sure the LE comes with bigger diffs so that should make them stronger. The only other difference is the skid plates and the shocks to to me. Good luck and let us know what you end up with!

Does it???

 

[CumminsPusher]

Does it???

The rear is larger