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Talon jasond's Talon 1000R

Discussion in 'Talon 1000 Builds' started by jasond, Apr 29, 2019.

  1. jasond

    jasond Active Member
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    Added the OEM Upper Fabric Doors.

    Here's the video on my channel:

     
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    I have four trips in the last 6 weeks with my Honda oem upper doors. They are pretty solid build and quality, the clear vinyl does scratch semi easily, if small tree branches are dragging across them. But over all I’m very happy with mine
     
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    Jason, do think that you need the in-line thermostat bypass and the shut off valve that Inferno offers ? Would you add them if you had it to do over now that you have been using it?
     
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    Personally, I don’t need them because I’m not in an extremely cold climate during the winter months and I use my Talon purely for recreation (not enough snow to plow here and don’t get out to ride much solo).

    I’m in Southern Indiana so an average winter day is in the 30s (°F), but we do occasionally drop to - or below - zero a handful of times each winter.

    If I lived somewhere that was REALLY cold and/or constantly had snow on the ground it might be a worthwhile addition to get more consistent heat by bypassing the thermostat.
     
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    Last week I upgraded the factory Fox shock reservoir caps to some JC Racing caps with recessed Schrader valves. I bought the nitrogen recharging tools from Schmidty Racing Suspensions so I could refill the shocks with nitrogen and got a 20 cubic foot bottle of nitrogen from a local welding supply shop.

    The one thing I had to make a parts store run for was a Schrader valve extension. The SRS tool has a no-loss chuck, but required the use of a Schrader valve extension since the JC Racing caps are recessed. I bought a 4-pack of Slime brand extensions, but they do sell a nice brass extension on their site. I'll include links to everything below:

    JC Racing Fox Shock Reservoir End Caps with Recessed Schrader Valves (Talon R = 2.5" caps all around)

    Schmidty Racing Suspensions Nitrogen Fill Tool

    Schmidty Racing Suspensions Schrader Valve Extension (must have with recessed Schrader valves to be able to thread the no-loss chuck on)

    Valve Stem Tool (I already had this tool, but it was used to thread onto the recessed valve and pull the cap back out to reseat it after installing the cap and installing the retaining clip)

    The install is very simple and straight forward. I didn't bother measuring the PSI in each shock with a needle, but as I listened to the nitrogen release from each shock after drilling the holes it didn't sound like much was in them. Again, I can't quantify the PSI measurements for the stock setup, but 200 PSI is what they have now and I've got the ability to maintain them going forward.

    I've got a video I'll be editing soon and I'll edit this post to include it here.

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    It is not a Fox issue, it is a Honda issue, Fox built the shocks to Honda specs. The entire machine, including the shocks, is under warranty by Honda. Fox has no obligation to the Talon customer, only to Honda. It is the same for any sourced out part on the machine.

    Fox will do nothing until Honda tells them to and Honda will do nothing until "we" the customer complain enough. We need to stop blaming/hounding Fox and let Honda know our displeasure with their choice/design of Fox parts installed on the machine.
     
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    @TerryH agree on the JC caps. I was debating between the JC caps and the SRS caps and ultimately liked the aesthetics of the JC caps plus the recessed valves being more protected by an aluminum cap.

    @PaulF I'd say you're correct. I'm sure Fox would love to sell thousands of their premium units, but they do spec to Honda's design/budget so we'd have to start with Honda on getting things corrected.
     
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    Jason, I'm wondering about the head clearance on your Swamp Donkey. I've heard you say you are about 6' 2" (same here) and I'd like your insight on whether you feel it sits up in the roof line high enough or if it's in your sight line at all. Will you be doing a video of the install? (or did I miss it). I think I watched you install a Rockin' Radio in your Polaris. Can you compare the two systems for us?

    Thanks for any insight.
     
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    Head clearance - I had no issues with head clearance or the Swamp Donkey overhead affecting my line of sight.

    Install Video - I won't be doing an install video, but it's VERY simple to install. With two sets of hands it can be done in 20 minutes, but I did it myself in about 45 minutes. It uses 4 cable clamps that go around the roll cage and a self tapping screw secures each clamp to the enclosure. Holding the enclosure in place while you run the screws through the clamps and into the enclosure is the only thing that's difficult by yourself.

    Comparison of the two - The Rockin' Radios unit was the nicer unit in terms of quality and sound in my opinion, but I like the physical form factor of the Swamp Donkey better. I did opt for the factory upgrade to the head unit and speakers on the RR unit, though. The components I had in it were a Rockford Fosgate PMX-2 head unit and (4) RGB 6.5" Kicker LED speakers. It costs more, but it was worth the extra coin. The RF head unit puts out a respectable amount of watts by itself without an additional amplifier and has cleaner, louder sound than the head unit I had in the Swamp Donkey unit (also does not have an amplifier outside of the head unit).

    With all of that being said, I no longer have the Swamp Donkey unit in my Talon. It just wasn't enough sound for my liking, but I prefer a lot of mids and lows with my music so that's to be expected with 4 non-amplified 6.5" speakers. You've probably noticed I change accessories like I change underwear. I went with two 8" tower speakers, a Rockford Fosgate PMX-2 head unit (see a trend?), a JL MX600.3 amp under the dash, and made my own subwoofer enclosure to go in the bed. The sound I get out of this setup is much more in line with what I like and a large part of that is due to having a subwoofer which can be added to the Swamp Donkey unit if you'd prefer the convenience of an all-in-one overhead system for your highs and mids. I just like the way that tower speakers project sound in addition to the range of an 8" speaker vs a 6.5". Tower speakers will also work with a custom cage which is in my plans for a future upgrade.

    Hope this helps.

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    Thank you kindly for the feedback, good sir.
     
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    I'll shoot you a PM and see if we're somewhat local to one-another.
     
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    I think bottle is what you’re asking. Assuming that’s right it was around $30 to fill up a 20 cubic ft bottle at a local welding supply store. If you have to buy a bottle as well I think they’re around $75 for a bottle.
     
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