JACKAL
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But still 50 years after this, we can't have Pre-load and rebound adjustment ?
GovtMule
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If memory serves me correctly it’s a 12mm for the high speed dampening nut, and a standard flat screwdriver for the low speed dampening. Haven’t looked to see if it’s in the tool kit.
SLOWPOKE693
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Rebound adjusters on offroad shocks are not really needed. You want the tire to get back to the terrain as quickly as possible without bouncing and don't want the shock to start packing because it can't rebound fast enough.
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Don't be using common sense now, it will confuse people
Mudwisel
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Having the choice. I will take rebound adjustment over not having it every time. Deal breaker no
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All true, I went live valve no regretsIt's a bad idea to go backwards with product development. They delivered the original Talon with two springs and crossovers, copying what the off-road market has been using for decades. It even had newbs like myself thinkin' - Hey, I'm cool, I got crossover technology just like the big kidz.
And now they want me to go to the fookin' aftermarket for something that came stock 5 years ago? Really, really, BAD idea Honda. #middlefinger
Really p!issed off about this back-step. I was thinking about upgrading to get the new power steering, better DCT programming and what I thought was better shock damping (I rode in and drove a '23 Talon X and it's stock suspension was better than my stock shocks or replacement set of Shock Therapy worked shocks on my Talon R).
The Showa plant and an R&D building in my home town changed the name on the buildings to Hitachi Astemo a few years ago. At one time they were making hydraulic cylinders for Mercury Marine in this plant.
It's a bad idea to go backwards with product development. They delivered the original Talon with two springs and crossovers, copying what the off-road market has been using for decades. It even had newbs like myself thinkin' - Hey, I'm cool, I got crossover technology just like the big kidz.
And now they want me to go to the fookin' aftermarket for something that came stock 5 years ago? Really, really, BAD idea Honda. #middlefinger
Really p!issed off about this back-step. I was thinking about upgrading to get the new power steering, better DCT programming and what I thought was better shock damping (I rode in and drove a '23 Talon X and it's stock suspension was better than my stock shocks or replacement set of Shock Therapy worked shocks on my Talon R).
hi hi - the great s***ty shock (and fork) saga will never end - we all b****ed and still do about this on dirt bikes forever - bottom line - most that want comfort, race, need to be setup, etc. for the area they ride - and b**** and spend money to fix it, including me.....
I am not sure this will ever end, except if ya buy a poo poo - im annoyed as well that Honda is so far off the radar screen.
Mudwisel
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Lot of things come in to factor and not everybody is the same. You mentioned race bikes. That area for sure. How I tuned , valved my equipment for me might not be optimum for someone else. Accurate rider feedback is very important to getting the best setup
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The 2025 base Talons may have a red color choice and we should know a lot more about the Showa shocks. There may be spacers available if more preload is needed. I'm selling my 2019 Talon R next year and will buy a 2025 Talon R. My 2023 Talon R 4 seat needs more ride height. I have a lot of weight in the back, so I need at least 2 inches more. I may have to replace the tender spring but not sure yet. The FLV is the only choice for a 4 seat Talon R, and it is working good enough to satisfy most owners.
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