P1000m5 Windrock1000- She’s still sexy!

[JTW]

@Windrock1000 @Ragnar406

Ps.. All this talk on the setups reminded me and I finally took measurements of the stock wheels and tire heights between the front and rear. At 12.5 psi the front measures 27 1/2” and the rear measures 27”.. bump the tire pressure up to 18 psi in the back and they measure 27 1/2” all the way around. Also, I stuck a level on the rear tire and with HL and preload on the shocks just to see where the camber is.. I’m 1/2” in at the bottom of the tire. Lastly, it’s 63” wide in the front and 61” wide at the back running 10” tires on all 4 with stock wheels and HL lift.

 

[Admin]

 

[sugarray]

It also only took me 30 mins to get the 6 cotter pins out. I’m an amateur, what’s up with you pros not being able to get them out?

 

[Ragnar406]

@Windrock1000 @Ragnar406

Ps.. All this talk on the setups reminded me and I finally took measurements of the stock wheels and tire heights between the front and rear. At 12.5 psi the front measures 27 1/2” and the rear measures 27”.. bump the tire pressure up to 18 psi in the back and they measure 27 1/2” all the way around. Also, I stuck a level on the rear tire and with HL and preload on the shocks just to see where the camber is.. I’m 1/2” in at the bottom of the tire. Lastly, it’s 63” wide in the front and 61” wide at the back running 10” tires on all 4 with stock wheels and HL lift.

Awesome - I think he wanted you to also measure the circumference-

“JTW when you get a chance air all tires to the same psi. Now measure the height of each tire. Now measure the circumference.
I'm betting the circumference is smaller on the rear tires. If it is not the same on all tires, I believe your drive train will be in a bind when you are in 4 lock. Will be cool to know if it changes!”

 

[JTW]

Awesome - I think he wanted you to also measure the circumference-

“JTW when you get a chance air all tires to the same psi. Now measure the height of each tire. Now measure the circumference.
I'm betting the circumference is smaller on the rear tires. If it is not the same on all tires, I believe your drive train will be in a bind when you are in 4 lock. Will be cool to know if it changes!”

Measureing the height difference between the front and rear gives you that just multiply by 3.14..
Front=86.35
Rear=84.78

I think the difference is insignificant... but I can manipulate it with a little higher psi in the back.

 

[lee]

I'm betting the circumference is smaller on the rear tires. If it is not the same on all tires, I believe your drive train will be in a bind when you are in 4 lock. Will be cool to know if it changes!”

If he is in a situation that needs diff lock a little difference in dia will not matter.
Hopefully he knows not to run diff lock on dry pavement.
If he is turned turtle with all 4 tires in the air even diff lock is not going to help.

 

[ohanacreek]

If he is turned turtle with all 4 tires in the air even diff lock is not going to help.

Which for @JTW is likely to be often

 

[Plumber32]

@Windrock1000 @Ragnar406

Ps.. All this talk on the setups reminded me and I finally took measurements of the stock wheels and tire heights between the front and rear. At 12.5 psi the front measures 27 1/2” and the rear measures 27”.. bump the tire pressure up to 18 psi in the back and they measure 27 1/2” all the way around. Also, I stuck a level on the rear tire and with HL and preload on the shocks just to see where the camber is.. I’m 1/2” in at the bottom of the tire. Lastly, it’s 63” wide in the front and 61” wide at the back running 10” tires on all 4 with stock wheels and HL lift.

This is why I put on the 1.5" wheel spacers in the rear tonight

 

[JTW]

If he is in a situation that needs diff lock a little difference in dia will not matter.
Hopefully he knows not to run diff lock on dry pavement.
If he is turned turtle with all 4 tires in the air even diff lock is not going to help.

Lmao..

 

[JTW]

Which for @JTW is likely to be often

It’s funny because it’s true... gravity hasn’t been my friend.

 

[Ragnar406]

Measureing the height difference between the front and rear gives you that just multiply by 3.14..
Front=86.35
Rear=84.78

I think the difference is insignificant... but I can manipulate it with a little higher psi in the back.

Dang breaking out your math skills - tell the truth you googled that

I was also courious as I have a set of deluxe wheels that I may one day put other tires on or sell

 

[Smitty335]

Use windrocks . I did and it worked out fine. You dont have to be super accurate to those measures just real close.

Use these, Windsocks, I was tired and mis spoke should have been 10 and 12 turns

 

[Windrock1000]

@Windrock1000 @Ragnar406

Ps.. All this talk on the setups reminded me and I finally took measurements of the stock wheels and tire heights between the front and rear. At 12.5 psi the front measures 27 1/2” and the rear measures 27”.. bump the tire pressure up to 18 psi in the back and they measure 27 1/2” all the way around. Also, I stuck a level on the rear tire and with HL and preload on the shocks just to see where the camber is.. I’m 1/2” in at the bottom of the tire. Lastly, it’s 63” wide in the front and 61” wide at the back running 10” tires on all 4 with stock wheels and HL lift.

That's why I got the superatv rear a-arms- fix that rear camber after the lift is installed! The 1" spacers will help with the rear track. At 18 psi is the rears tires hard? I'm afraid the tire setup is a factor in popping axles. More riding will tell!

 

[Windrock1000]

If he is in a situation that needs diff lock a little difference in dia will not matter.
Hopefully he knows not to run diff lock on dry pavement.
If he is turned turtle with all 4 tires in the air even diff lock is not going to help.

"Turned Turtle" That's funny! Im calling his setup "Rear Draggin"

 

[JTW]

That's why I got the superatv rear a-arms- fix that rear camber after the lift is installed! The 1" spacers will help with the rear track. At 18 psi is the rears tires hard? I'm afraid the tire setup is a factor in popping axles. More riding will tell!

But aren’t most of the axles are being broken upfront?.. I agree that it makes sense on the camber potentially being part of the cause for rear breakage but shouldn’t a heavy load (hehehe) get rid of most of that camber?

Also, I haven’t ran mine to play with the rear psi yet.

 

[JTW]

Dang breaking out your math skills - tell the truth you googled that

I was also courious as I have a set of deluxe wheels that I may one day put other tires on or sell

One of the few things I retained from math.... I guess I just really like pie!

 

[Windrock1000]

But aren’t most of the axles are being broken upfront?.. I agree that it makes sense on the camber potentially being part of the cause for rear breakage but shouldn’t a heavy load (hehehe) get rid of most of that camber?

Also, I haven’t ran mine to play with the rear psi yet.

You are taller up front so it’s dragging the rears

 

[lee]

He says the skid plate on the ROPS is for trees.

Come on, it's a skid plate - on the side of his P1k.
We all know what's going on.
I'm sure it's just southern good manners that no one said anything.

 

[Smitty335]

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Looking good!

 

[joeymt33]

Awesome - I think he wanted you to also measure the circumference-

“JTW when you get a chance air all tires to the same psi. Now measure the height of each tire. Now measure the circumference.
I'm betting the circumference is smaller on the rear tires. If it is not the same on all tires, I believe your drive train will be in a bind when you are in 4 lock. Will be cool to know if it changes!”

I will muddy the waters and throw out this bit of information, the final gear ratios are different between the front differential and the rear differential.

 

[Windrock1000]

I will muddy the waters and throw out this bit of information, the final gear ratios are different between the front differential and the rear differential.

Why? any idea?