P1000 Beefing up A-arm mounts

[Rambo]

Guys I know this has been covered in different peoples build threads, but I'm having a hard time finding and remembering who all has done this. I'm looking for different options and material used to beef up the front upper A-arm mounts. I recently had this done. The shop that did it welded 1/8 inch heavy grade washers to fix the problem. I had one side work it's way loose again and egg shaped the new washer. Not sure where my problem lies...... I had the nuts tight and even double nutted. I don't want to keep going through this! If anyone can post material used or links It would be greatly appreciated. This go round I will use red lock tight!!!!

 

[Admin]

 

[JTW]

@joeymt33 @snuffnwhisky @Neohio @ohanacreek

 

[Neohio]

Guys I know this has been covered in different peoples build threads, but I'm having a hard time finding and remembering who all has done this. I'm looking for different options and material used to beef up the front upper A-arm mounts. I recently had this done. The shop that did it welded 1/8 inch heavy grade washers to fix the problem. I had one side work it's way loose again and egg shaped the new washer. Not sure where my problem lies...... I had the nuts tight and even double nutted. I don't want to keep going through this! If anyone can post material used or links It would be greatly appreciated. This go round I will use red lock tight!!!!

Do you have pics of their repair?
I have some washers being machined right now to hopefully weld in and address this issue.

 

[joeymt33]

Is this only a problem with those people running super ATV arms? I have not had this problem with CATVOS arms but I did add gussets to the mounting locations and double the thickness of the mounting surface instead of using a washer.





This bracket ties the front upper mount with the bumper mount. And also has an extra flange coming off the bottom to weld to the tube.

 

[snuffnwhisky]

I plated mine with chromoly and upgraded to 12.9 bolts and lock nuts. Wore the holes out again (1 ride) and machined washers to capture the heads of the bolts and welded in. Trashed the bushings after doing that (1 ride). So next I'm cutting the A arms and putting in heims and tabs for separate bolts like the bottom a arms. Red locktight and new locknuts and still came loose. The new UHMW SATV bushings may help as they should give a little more but I have not tried those.

 

[Rambo]

Do you have pics of their repair?
I have some washers being machined right now to hopefully weld in and address this issue.

I don't have any pics, but will post later on.

 

[Rambo]

Is this only a problem with those people running super ATV arms? I have not had this problem with CATVOS arms but I did add gussets to the mounting locations and double the thickness of the mounting surface instead of using a washer.

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This bracket ties the front upper mount with the bumper mount. And also has an extra flange coming off the bottom to weld to the tube.
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That's a good question. From what I recall I've only seen this on SATV arms. Thanks for posting your fix!

 

[Rambo]

I plated mine with chromoly and upgraded to 12.9 bolts and lock nuts. Wore the holes out again (1 ride) and machined washers to capture the heads of the bolts and welded in. Trashed the bushings after doing that (1 ride). So next I'm cutting the A arms and putting in heims and tabs for separate bolts like the bottom a arms. Red locktight and new locknuts and still came loose. The new UHMW SATV bushings may help as they should give a little more but I have not tried those.

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Well hell after what you've done and still having issues that's more than discouraging. I know you're tire/wheel setup is heavier than mine but still....
I know I have the old style bushings, so I'm going to reach out to SATV and explain what's going on and see what there response is.
The guy that fixed mine I would think is pretty knowledgeable, he builds/repairs race sxs cages. He was surprised to hear about this issue.
I'll report back.......

 

[snuffnwhisky]

Well hell after what you've done and still having issues that's more than discouraging. I know you're tire/wheel setup is heavier than mine but still....
I know I have the old style bushings, so I'm going to reach out to SATV and explain what's going on and see what there response is.
The guy that fixed mine I would think is pretty knowledgeable, he builds/repairs race sxs cages. He was surprised to hear about this issue.
I'll report back.......

I might still try the new bushings first. I already have heims and bungs and know that will fix it permanently but I will probably rip the whole frame off if I do haha.

 

[BigOL3]

Sounds like those A arms are causing me problems than I would care about dealing with.

Kinda screwed that sentence up ....... lol. I meant to say, sounds like those A arms would be causing me problems that I would not want to deal with.

 

[snuffnwhisky]

We do ride pretty rough sometimes lol. Jumping, hitting basketball size rocks at 30, etc...

 

[Superthrill]

These can be drilled out or used as threaded. Drill an over size hole and weld in. You wear these out and you are doing something. Somewhere on the sight, they have unthreaded ones.

Weld Washers - RuffStuff Specialties

 

[DDDonkey]

We do ride pretty rough sometimes lol. Jumping, hitting basketball size rocks at 30, etc...

So is it only the upper mounts with this issue? I know Super ATV has a lower mount support/frame stiffener.

 

[JTW]

We do ride pretty rough sometimes lol. Jumping, hitting basketball size rocks at 30, etc...

Sooooo I should go ahead and do this....

 

[snuffnwhisky]

So is it only the upper mounts with this issue? I know Super ATV has a lower mount support/frame stiffener.

The uppers can elongate the holes with the satv arms. Both upper and lower fronts can be ripped off the frame. I braced for both before i had a problem. The bolt hole problem might be a lot better with the new bushings as the stock arm rubber bushings do not have a problem. Mine looked to be delrin and are hard bushings.

 

[snuffnwhisky]

Sooooo I should go ahead and do this....

Keep an eye on the a arms for play and loose bolts

 

[GlockMeister]

Guess i dont ride hard enough. I had everything apart the other night and it was all still tight. No wear that i could tell.

 

[Rambo]

So is it only the upper mounts with this issue? I know Super ATV has a lower mount support/frame stiffener.

I've only had and seen issues on the upper mounts. I like my 30s but at this point wish I would have went 28s with stock arms. When I first had this problem I had a much heavier tire. Thought this was my main problem. Before I had it fixed I dropped down to a much lighter setup. Almost 13 lbs. lighter....

 

[JTW]

I've only had and seen issues on the upper mounts. I like my 30s but at this point wish I would have went 28s with stock arms. When I first had this problem I had a much heavier tire. Thought this was my main problem. Before I had it fixed I dropped down to a much lighter setup. Almost 13 lbs. lighter....

Well, the mother f***er SHOULD be able to handle it! I’m getting tired of all the little bulls*** stuff.. no, don’t “over” build your sxs Honda just do the bare minimum so everybody has to spend time and money fixing s*** that should have been right to begin with. While the “product improvements” are great and all... how about the 50 other little things we’ve all done to make them more trail worthy.

 

[DDDonkey]

Interesting, as right now I was leaning toward the Super ATV a-arm over the C-fab, but I may need to think a little more on this.